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earnshaw Mon 03-May-21 11:39:22

it turns out that the publicity shy couple were so keen on privacy that they didnt even want the £38 million wedding we were forced into paying for them, blimey, they could have said something earlier, like before the public coughed up a fortune for security, A list celeb guests and more melodrama than an x factor sob story, they are now claiming they wanted none of that because " it didnt feel like their day ", but they went through it anyway, bless em. They told Oprah that they actually had a private exchange of vows three days before, just the two of them were present as well as the archbishop of canterbury - perfectly normal behaviour, , now that they have aired all their laundry in public to the whole world, they are off to work on that private life they claim to crave, At least until the next big interview comes up

Alegrias1 Thu 06-May-21 14:32:47

For the avoidance of doubt, and for the 232nd time, just in case anyone hasn't got it yet.

Scotland going independent would not mean we become a republic. She's our Queen too you know.

Would we join the Commonwealth? Hope so.

Callistemon Thu 06-May-21 14:17:26

Excellent post @ 12.02 Jabberwok

Yes, I agree.

Smileless2012 Thu 06-May-21 14:15:34

Excellent post @ 12.02 Jabberwok

Callistemon Thu 06-May-21 14:11:17

Will Scotland join The Commonwealth when/if it becomes independent, I wonder?

It is not compulsory to have the Queen as Head of State.

Jabberwok Thu 06-May-21 13:17:58

That's as may be Galaxy and no one has an issue with anyone deciding that something is not your cuppa and deciding on a different more private peaceful life, (their words) but trashing your family and all the other things previously mentioned in 'worldwide' publicity in order to make these megga bucks is pretty dreadful by any one's standards.

Kamiso Thu 06-May-21 12:49:00

Ellianne

Why are some posters so horrible to Annie and to me (and to earnshaw here) on these threads? I can accept you have different opinions on the subject but your contributions add nothing and just provoke dissent.
If you are not interested, please go away!

And I only came on GN to post a photo of my long coastal path walk, so I am certainly not sitting around waiting for the next M & H thread like some.

So true. Seems they consider attacking people who have a different view as “fun”. Says it all really and they still wonder why the left wing has become unelectable?

Eventually it may dawn on them that bullying and name calling is not only rude and abusive, but detrimental to their cause! Not my idea of “fun” .

If you don’t want to read posts why not just move on to another thread. Perhaps your anger, frustration and hysteria would be modified then to a more acceptable level.

Galaxy Thu 06-May-21 12:37:19

But people have different views jabberwok they may not see it as a waste of what might have been at all. I certainly wouldnt see it as a waste if I was in their shoes I would be relieved.

Jabberwok Thu 06-May-21 12:30:36

Thank you Bluebellewould and Annie (yesterday) and Namsnanny. I just feel that this saga has been such a waste of what might have been and so sad.

Alegrias1 Thu 06-May-21 12:27:44

Think of all the Banquets though Aveline grin. My money's on you, anyway.

I like the concept of the Commonwealth. I don't think it's an old fashioned out of date anachronism. Interestingly, if you go to their website there's a lot about their secretary general but not very much about the Head of the Commonwealth. So the jobs could be yours if you want it Aveline, maybe Charles won't be bothered.

Namsnanny Thu 06-May-21 12:18:44

12.02 Again Jabberwok hit the nail on the headgrin

Namsnanny Thu 06-May-21 12:13:26

18.05 Jabberwok brilliantly said. I wholeheartedly agree.

Aveline Thu 06-May-21 12:07:01

I could take him no bother! I quite fancy getting all dressed up and waving a bit. Might get a bit boring watching endless folk type dancing and trying to look interested. I'm good at inspecting people though so could walk up and down reviewing people etc

Jabberwok Thu 06-May-21 12:02:28

Countries are not and never have been under any obligation to join the Commonwealth, and can leave at any time they wish, the U.S didn't join and neither did Burma. countries of the Middle East declined membership, As this is, for some, an old fashioned out of date anachronism, is it not strange that countries who were not British colonys have asked if they can join? Rwanda joined in 2009 Mozambique in 1995. The RF have done enormous good in the Commonwealth, the Queen is loved and respected, Prince Charles accepted unanimously as the next head. Come to Prince William then perhaps by mutual consent, things may well be different, but it will be evolution not revolution. Again how sad that Prince Harry and Meghan were unable to be part of this enormously important institution, bearing in mind their humanitarian beliefs and ethos, which I would have outweighed megga bucks any day.

Ro60 Wed 05-May-21 21:28:10

There's a picture Alegrais1 ?

Alegrias1 Wed 05-May-21 21:01:09

Guess so Aveline. You might have to arm wrestle Charles for it though ?

Aveline Wed 05-May-21 20:59:06

Ooh. Can anyone apply then? Could be fun.

Alegrias1 Wed 05-May-21 20:56:30

The Queen is Head of the Commonwealth only by dint of being Head of the Commonwealth, not because she is Queen. In 2018 she lobbied for Charles to take over from her when she's gone and that was agreed, because after all, who is going to deny an elderly lady what she wants? It didn't need to be Charles, it could have been anybody they wanted it to be.

Being Head of State of the UK doesn't mean you automatically get to be Head of the Commonwealth.

Ro60 Wed 05-May-21 20:01:43

GranyFor a nation to join the Commonwealth, it must first recognize Elizabeth II as the head of the Commonwealth. Other criteria are equally important and include racial equality and the embrace of world peace, liberty, human rights, equality, and free trade.
We here in the UK have a Prime Minister not a President - the Queen is our Head of State

Smileless2012 Wed 05-May-21 19:39:10

That certainly wasn't the impression the Commonwealth countries gave in the aftermath of PP's death.

Callistemon Wed 05-May-21 19:34:25

That's my opinion ha

Ah! I see
Ha!

Callistemon Wed 05-May-21 19:33:41

The commonwealth doesn't need the RF They should ditch the Royals

In whose opinion? Have you canvassed The Commonwealth?

Would they want to be aligned to a small island in the Northern Hemisphere were it not for the Royal Family?

Grany Wed 05-May-21 18:50:54

The commonwealth doesn't need the RF They should ditch the Royals The RF have no roll to play It is not hereditary the queen put those in charge on the spot asked if Charles could take over from her, nepotism Mrs May came back and agreed. The commonwealth is made up of 54 independent countries and any country can join.

Why do we need all these Royals in a job sharing what an elected president focused on his written down and limited role would play magnificently serving this country.

So you see the RF are not white as white the institution of monarchy is corrupt in public office for private gain and the Royals are allowed to get away it.

So you can't blame this couple who think they have been wronged by this institution puting it in front of the public wanting their share too. Remember the Royals always get what they want, for nothing.

The scandals and corruption of the Royal Family are endless – from The Queen lobbying the government to change laws to her benefit, to Prince Philip’s lifetime of racist slurs, to Prince Andrew fraternizing with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

I will concede one thing The queen played a good game she believed as queen. The others are only playing.

That's my opinion ha

Anniebach Wed 05-May-21 18:30:58

Jabberwok. great post

Bluebellwould Wed 05-May-21 18:10:41

Well put Jabberwocky.

Jabberwok Wed 05-May-21 18:05:43

Sadly Harry and Meghan were to be a part of the slimmed down RF. Their main responsibility was to be the Commonwealth where they could and would have been an enormous asset to the RF and this country. A very popular, seemingly very nice couple, a great support to Charles and particularly William when he becomes king. The fab four in fact! Very sad that tacky hurtful untruthful interviews trashing your own family, embarrassing the Aof C and other clergy and megga bucks proved more alluring . Of course they were at liberty to live their lives as they see fit, we all want that,but most of don't and didn't make a living from our dead mother, trashing our nearest relatives even if we don't care for them , embarrassing the person who married us and referring to an event put on for us at someone else's expense as a sideshow, (presumably for the masses/peasants) and use our children to make yet more money by writing a book which is fact cribbed from elsewhere. All very disappointing, and I still find it hard to understand how P.H could and does go along with this especially when his father and brother,were clearly going to be deeply hurt and his elderly, one dying , grandparents deeply distressed. How could anyone do that, in public,for the world to see and gossip about. I can't believe anyone of us would have behaved in such a way, even if we had hated them? Just downright cruel.