Feeling sorry for men

Can any posters explain something to me?
When you say you or your husband are scared to approach an alone child why is that? You say times have changed. How?
What exactly is different. Do you imagine there has been an increase in false accusations?

Hithere

Alegrias
You are explaining yourself very well.

I am a woman and I have hands to open doors.

I dont need anybody to open the door for me as if my capabilitiea as a woman are less developed than the ones of a man.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. ?

When rapists (who ARE mostly men) are regularly convicted and when women can be safe in public spaces at night then possibly there will be a place for feeling sorry for men.

But right now we live in a society which is heavily stacked against women. So no. I feel sorry for women suffering assault, domestic violence, sexist jokes and put downs, and on and on. Not blokes who aren't quite sure where they fit in.

If all the good blokes got behind women, to try to work towards stamping out male violence against women, it'd be achieved a lot sooner. Rather than winging on about 'not all men".

Alegrias
You are explaining yourself very well.

I am a woman and I have hands to open doors.

I dont need anybody to open the door for me as if my capabilitiea as a woman are less developed than the ones of a man.

I had to read it twice Galaxy but I got it! I do appreciate it ?

Definitely time for bed.

To be really clear on my behalf as well, my post was in support of Alegrias, not that she needs my help or would even want it after that attempt.

Galaxy

Not sure I am helping here Alegrias

I'm not sure! But thanks anyway ?

I will explain this as I suspect there is a misunderstanding.

I think it is right and proper for someone to assist anybody else by holding a door open for them if they have their hands full, if they are dealing with several small children, or if if they are otherwise having difficulty getting the door open.

I think it is right and proper to pause and keep the door open if someone is close behind you and letting go of the door would mean it bangs into them.

I think it is anachronistic that any person thinks they need to open a door for me and allow me to pass through before they do, simply because they think that's polite, because I am a woman. It is unnecessary.

I've got no idea where the misapprehension came from that I am being rude to people who disagree with me. I'm giving you my opinion. You are entirely at liberty to disagree with me. But don't berate me for something I haven't said or done.

Galaxy , I loved that !!!!!?

Time for bed , next time a man holds open a door for me I shall thank him even more heartily than I have hithertoo !!!!!

Not sure I am helping here Alegrias

They cant really disagree with how she feels, she is talking about how she feels about door opening, you can feel differently but you cant control how she feels. So if I say I feel hot you can say I feel cold but you cant say you dont feel hot. Well you can but it would be odd.

Err - just people who disagree with you , not wilfully , naughtily misunderstanding as you seem to keep insisting! ?

Its not about agreeing with me. I've said what I think at least three times now and people still don't understand it or haven't read it. What would you call that?

How very rude to assume that because some one does not agree with your point of view they must therefore be incapable of ‘ grasping ‘ it.

Nanna58

How sad that you count someone who compliments you or holds open a door as ‘ a poor old soul who hasn’t moved with the times ‘ Algerias - what would you consider an acceptable up to date alternative , a guy in a hoodie who barges past ?

Somebody who helps me by holding a door open for me when I've got my hands full. Not somebody who thinks they need to jump ahead and hold a door open deferentially as I waltz through it like Lady Muck. Which I've said several times on this thread but which some people seem to be having trouble grasping.

Not even sure why I’m bothering posting, as I’ve said before, as a wife , MIL and Nan to a DGS the level of misandry on GN saddens me

Well I quite like hoodies.

How sad that you count someone who compliments you or holds open a door as ‘ a poor old soul who hasn’t moved with the times ‘ Algerias - what would you consider an acceptable up to date alternative , a guy in a hoodie who barges past ?

if you treat them as a sexual predator then they will become a sexual predator.

Oh goody!! It’s women’s faults again!

We deserve this

I’m sorry to say, I’ve very little sympathy for men.

Especially the “poor me is so hard! Have to be so careful!”

Welcome to how women have lived for years

simtib

People will often act as you treat them. If you treat them with kindness they will act in a kind way if you treat them unkindly they will become unkind, if you treat them as a sexual predator then they will become a sexual predator.

Does not always follow and loads of exceptions but you should always assume that a person is kind and thoughtful untill proven otherwise. Assuming that someone is a sexual predator just because they are male just causes resentment and leads to more problems.

'if you treat them as a sexual predator, they will become a sexual predator'

I have NEVER heard such a lot of victim blaming rubbish in my whole life.

In effect, what you are saying, is that IF someone is nervous around a man (possibly because they have been sexually assaulted in the past) and are nervous and feel he may be a threat, that the VICTIM is to blame if he assaults her.

NOW, I don't know about you, but I am not going to sexually assault someone regardless of what they do or say. And anyone that DOES assult someone is guilty. No one else.

Most normal men know what’s appropriate so no, I don’t feel sorry for men. I do feel sorry for women who have to put up with sexual, misogynistic or abusive behaviour from men on a regular basis.

The poster blaming women’s skimpy outfits for rape should be ashamed & quite frankly banned from this site.

No, I dont feel sorry for men.
I feel a bit sad for people who don’t understand what a compliment v overstepping boundaries is.
How can anyone feel that holding a door rather than let is bang into someone;s face is anything other than simple good manners.
Ridiculous