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earnshaw Sun 16-May-21 12:14:56

I was so saddened by the interview with harry and megan , why would two people who have got exactly what they wanted are happy to create such pain for others

Baggs Tue 25-May-21 06:33:39

Oops. Got my quotes all mangled. I think you’ll get the idea though. The article is worth a read.

Baggs Tue 25-May-21 06:38:32

Or, as a good summation of the article in the comments puts it: “Princess Anne or Prince Harry? You choose.”

Lucca Tue 25-May-21 06:40:55

Why choose ? Is there a valid comparison to be made ?

Galaxy Tue 25-May-21 06:49:08

Choose for what?

Calendargirl Tue 25-May-21 07:11:09

Alegrias1

I have a question that no-one is obliged to answer, but I'll ask it anyway.

What is the fascination? Why do we have so many threads about this? And all so similar with sometimes identical posts?

Perhaps because so many other threads consist of games, games and games.

I know this has been discussed before.....

Alegrias1 Tue 25-May-21 08:04:09

On the news last night....

State sponsored hijacking. BLM activist shot. Mosley died. Japanese Olympics.

Threads exist on TV series we've watched, books we've read.

The pandemic.

The reason "it's this or games" doesn't hold, I'm afraid.

Baggs Tue 25-May-21 08:05:18

Lucca

Why choose ? Is there a valid comparison to be made ?

Yes, there is a valid comparison to make. Compare Anne's commitment to her role (even if you disapprove of the role and want to abolish the monarchy), her get on with it attitude, to Harry's saying he wants to opt out and then still expecting his father to bank roll him and obliquely criticising his grandparents. Anne does the job assigned to her. Harry moans.

You didn't really need that spelled out, did you?

Baggs Tue 25-May-21 08:06:30

Galaxy

Choose for what?

If you can't think of anything, then don't choose?

Alegrias1 Tue 25-May-21 08:10:38

"Anne does the job assigned to her."

Earlier in the thread - "don't complain, don't explain."

Step out of line and get savaged in the press and social media.

It's not healthy, is it?

Baggs Tue 25-May-21 08:15:03

Alegrias1

"Anne does the job assigned to her."

Earlier in the thread - "don't complain, don't explain."

Step out of line and get savaged in the press and social media.

It's not healthy, is it?

Perhaps not, but that doesn't justify what H & M are doing to their extended families. I think most people would be quite happy and not critical of them if they pursued the privacy they said they craved.

Lucca Tue 25-May-21 08:16:13

Baggs

Lucca

Why choose ? Is there a valid comparison to be made ?

Yes, there is a valid comparison to make. Compare Anne's commitment to her role (even if you disapprove of the role and want to abolish the monarchy), her get on with it attitude, to Harry's saying he wants to opt out and then still expecting his father to bank roll him and obliquely criticising his grandparents. Anne does the job assigned to her. Harry moans.

You didn't really need that spelled out, did you?

What I meant was she’s 70 he’s in his 30’s for example. She lives a countryside life he doesn’t.
I read that article by Rifkind and found it simplistic and irritating !

Lucca Tue 25-May-21 08:24:00

At the risk of further annoying the majority of posters ! I’d like to say for the record, I have never said I want to abolish the monarchy, I have never said I approve wholeheartedly of Meghan and/or harry. As it goes I think harry may well be making mistakes but what I object to are the ones which imply posters know exactly what the couple are thinking, planning and their motivation while all the while praising the rest of the windsors without reservation. Not to mention nasty remarks along the lines of Harrys mother bringing about her own demise,

Galaxy Tue 25-May-21 08:25:00

I think that's the problem either do exactly as you are told and behave in a particular way ( the rules of which seem to alter on a whim) and some of the rules of behaviour are deeply unhealthy.

Iam64 Tue 25-May-21 08:25:59

‘The privacy they craved’
I may have misunderstood but my reading of the reason to leave the RF was to get away from the kind of public appearances and behaviour expected of members of the RF.
To find their own kind of freedom, to get involved in projects of their choice, to talk freely about their lives.

Ellianne Tue 25-May-21 08:38:51

Iam64

‘The privacy they craved’
I may have misunderstood but my reading of the reason to leave the RF was to get away from the kind of public appearances and behaviour expected of members of the RF.
To find their own kind of freedom, to get involved in projects of their choice, to talk freely about their lives.

I'm not sure about Meghan, but Harry did say he couldn't bear hearing any more camera clicks because it upset him. That is why he wanted to leave. Now he craves being in front of the camera.
As someone said on here, he changes his tune in what he says and does every week. There is no consistency.

Mollygo Tue 25-May-21 08:44:40

Publicity on his terms?

Alegrias1 Tue 25-May-21 08:46:54

Mollygo

Publicity on his terms?

What's wrong with that?

Anniebach Tue 25-May-21 08:57:39

Alegrias1 you asked a question, you received replies, you are not a moderator and we are not here to be judged by you.

You are free to start a thread on Max Mosley so do so not suggest others on this thread should do so.

Mollygo Tue 25-May-21 08:58:02

Alegrias1 ‘What’s wrong with that?’

Nothing, if you believe publicity always work like that.
Nowadays, what you say or do, digitally recorded, can be dragged up ad infinitum at the click of a button and interpreted in ways you never intended. It won’t be any different for H.

Alegrias1 Tue 25-May-21 09:02:47

Anniebach

Alegrias1 you asked a question, you received replies, you are not a moderator and we are not here to be judged by you.

You are free to start a thread on Max Mosley so do so not suggest others on this thread should do so.

Disagreeing and giving a different viewpoint is not moderating or judging anyone. I didn't suggest anyone did anything .

Continually trying to discredit and discourage another poster, does, however, have a name.

Ellianne Tue 25-May-21 09:07:14

Oh my goodness, I knew I shouldn't have rejoined this thread with my pearls of wisdom. Trouble is the other one on Prince Harry many of us were enjoying has taken the same turn.

Alegrias1 Tue 25-May-21 09:10:33

Oh dear, Ellianne, I hope you're not trying to moderate any threads, are you ?

Ellianne Tue 25-May-21 09:12:42

Alegrias1

Oh dear, Ellianne, I hope you're not trying to moderate any threads, are you ?

Certainly not, theres no point two of us making fools of ourselves!

Lucca Tue 25-May-21 09:12:44

Ellianne would you like to ask GNHQ to make a rule that H and M threads are only for those who agree that the couple are “bad”. ( yes I know it’s a simplification but you get my drift)
.
Why shouldn’t Alegrias say what she thinks ?

The two threads are ridiculously similar anyway.

Ellianne Tue 25-May-21 09:16:38

Sorry with respect Lucca where did I even mention Alegrias by name?
Where did I even address her?

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