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Passports- do all your grandchildren, nephews, nieces

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Kali2 Wed 19-May-21 08:46:25

have one?

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-May-21 17:58:06

welbeck

Tish

Yes, they all do. My youngest got 1 before he was 6 weeks old in order to go to a wedding in Eire....

you don't actually need a passport to go between uk and ireland, it is a common travel area, like going from london to glasgow.
but some airlines require photo i.d. for security reasons.
i think it would be the same if you flew from london to glasgow.

Before COVID-19 we flew to Dublin from London City airport and Edinburgh from Stanstead Airport, passports were required on both occasions.

Kali2 Thu 20-May-21 17:44:51

What a lovely day walking in the Dales today. Just got back.

I am not very computer/tehno savvy- but the link sent to me by a friend showed a printed copy of the letter, sent to parents. There was no doubt it was real.

It is not just Brexit linked, by Priti P linked and what this Government is currently doing to EU ciitzens living in UK.

So I am happy to admit I am unable to copy the link- but not that I got the wrong end of the stick, sorry.

What I was trying to establish, is what proportion of children who are resident in the UK have passports, and their socio-economic/ethnic profile.

MawBe Thu 20-May-21 16:37:06

Ellianne

Thank you for your apology Alegrias.
On this one the OP was wrong to say, "schools sending letters to parents asking children to bring their passports on a certain day, year by year- in order to check their resident status. Explaining that things have changed since Brexit and that some may no longer have the right to be educated there."
She was definitely making an unnecessary mountain out of a mole hole and i really can't see any of those correcting her expending any great effort or busting a gut.

But I don’t expect she will come back to admit that she got the wrong end of the stick, will she?

Another Brexit-bashing oppo though sad

welbeck Thu 20-May-21 16:01:20

Tish

Yes, they all do. My youngest got 1 before he was 6 weeks old in order to go to a wedding in Eire....

you don't actually need a passport to go between uk and ireland, it is a common travel area, like going from london to glasgow.
but some airlines require photo i.d. for security reasons.
i think it would be the same if you flew from london to glasgow.

Ellianne Thu 20-May-21 15:59:40

Oofy she might want to look at courses offered by Sherborne International School - very good, though this year I think they might be on hold due to covid.

Oofy Thu 20-May-21 14:59:10

Sorry, Mawbe. Blame autocorrect, just did it again!

Oofy Thu 20-May-21 14:58:02

Thank you for that clarification, Maybe. Had agreed to host a Swiss friend's daughter for a month once Covid travel settles, to improve her English (the poor kid is being taught all subjects through the medium of English in a mainstream Swiss school). Might be easier to just tell her parents they'll have to pay for her to go to a private school for a month. Had intended to go and speak to the head of our local comp to ask if she could go there for the month. Ramifications of Brexit hadn't even occurred to me. Not even quite sure what nationality the kids are; parents are German, but live and work in Switzerland

Neilspurgeon0 Thu 20-May-21 14:13:01

Most do, but not all, some simply have never needed one. Just as I have issues with authority in never having had a driving licence, I guess in future sone will have problems not owning a passport.

I have always found being a bolshy bastard works wonders with over officious officialdom !!! ?

GrauntyHelen Thu 20-May-21 13:59:12

Yes but then they are all 17plus

grannytotwins Thu 20-May-21 13:34:42

All have.

Alegrias1 Thu 20-May-21 13:17:02

Ellianne flowers

Sorry - but I love the idea of a mole hole wink

The little blighters could hide there all day long.

GagaJo Thu 20-May-21 13:14:36

My GS too. Two weeks old. Needed for a passport application while living overseas.

Ellianne Thu 20-May-21 13:13:03

Thank you for your apology Alegrias.
On this one the OP was wrong to say, "schools sending letters to parents asking children to bring their passports on a certain day, year by year- in order to check their resident status. Explaining that things have changed since Brexit and that some may no longer have the right to be educated there."
She was definitely making an unnecessary mountain out of a mole hole and i really can't see any of those correcting her expending any great effort or busting a gut.

Mollygo Thu 20-May-21 13:05:37

All my GC have them. The most difficult job was trying to get a 6 week old baby to have her eyes open and not be crying when the photo was being taken.

Supernan Thu 20-May-21 13:04:56

Passports- not your business.

Ellianne Thu 20-May-21 13:03:10

GrannyGravy13

So basically like I posted up thread zealous HT misinterpretation of the rules thank you Ellianne

Yes, Grannygravy, you, Peasblossom, Meryl, Muse etc. etc. were all correct. Passports are not mandatory.
Nothing to do with Brexit either.

Alegrias1 Thu 20-May-21 13:01:30

I take it all back, nobody actually used the words "It never happens"

But there was so much effort expended in trying to say that the OP was making a mountain out of a molehill than actually looking at the problem.

Over-zealous HT's for sure, who thought that it was acceptable to ask non-white children for their passports.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-May-21 12:47:18

So basically like I posted up thread zealous HT misinterpretation of the rules thank you Ellianne

Ellianne Thu 20-May-21 12:45:54

Who said it never happens please?

Alegrias1 Thu 20-May-21 12:44:30

Yes they have misinterpreted.

But they did it, despite all the protestations on here about how that never happens.

Geez.

Ellianne Thu 20-May-21 12:38:48

schools have misinterpreted the new rules, including asking for pupils’ passport numbers and for parents to confirm their child is not an asylum seeker
The Department for Education has now reconfirmed its guidance. A spokesperson said: “The guidance is clear – there is no requirement for schools to request a child’s passport or birth certificate”. He insisted the nationality and country of birth data “should be as stated by the parent or guardian”

Alegrias1 Thu 20-May-21 12:34:30

Yes, me.

Is nobody reading my link? Hello? Is anybody there?

Quote:

"St Richard’s Church of England first school in Evesham, Worcestershire, also wrote to parents this week requesting pupils’ passport numbers."

Ellianne Thu 20-May-21 12:33:51

So there you have it, from 2 reliable sources. Mine being from the horse's mouth. Unless anyone would like to disagree?

annodomini Thu 20-May-21 12:33:33

Proofs of identity are proliferating. I've always had a passport and, for at least 21 years, a photographic driving licence. Then there's a bus pass and now my new senior railcard has my photo as well. What next?

Ellianne Thu 20-May-21 12:30:03

This thread has kicked up rather a lot of surprise and questions because it was actually a non starter.
In the context of registering children in school, they do not have to produce a passport. If the parents are resident in the UK that is sufficient. Usually we look at a birth certificate for full name of child, date of birth and gender. If parents reside abroad then we may need to check visas and additional documents.
If a child starts or leaves the school at anytime during their education then we have to notify the Local Authority. We have to keep a trail from Reception to Year 6 so the child does not fall off the radar.
No passports required at anytime, certainly not year on year, in normal circumstances.