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Concerns for unhygienic state of the home my Grandson lives in.

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rafichagran Sat 03-Jul-21 11:35:17

Agree with others , your son is just as responsible. You have a good relationship with them say nothing.

mrsgreenfingers56 Sat 03-Jul-21 11:34:35

Dear me, this post has sent me into a cleaning fit. You need to speak to your son as discreetly as possible. Mould on the curtains and windows is very unhealthy and can cause asthma in people. I know everyone's cleaning standards are different but this sounds awful. Wishing you all the best with this.

Namsnanny Sat 03-Jul-21 11:32:03

For me the cats present the worst problem, and probably lead to a lot of the others.

Does a health visitor come at all?
Presumably, not for a long time given the current situation.

There is precious little you can do, it seems to me.
Perhaps speak to your son and explain (supported with a leaflet maybe?)its imperative to keep the cat litter trays empty and clean, for his sons sake.
Cat faeces are very hazardous to young children.

M0nica Sat 03-Jul-21 11:23:06

I would emphasise what others say. Your son is just as responsible for looking after the house as his wife. What is he doing while she is looking after the baby.

In most households these days chores are shared between partners as is housework.

Speak to him about it and question how he feels and what he is doing about it.

PinkCakes Sat 03-Jul-21 11:05:41

Why aren't you mentioning this to your son?

Why are the cats all kept indoors? If they were allowed out some of the time, it would alleviate the need for 6 litter trays, and would cut down on some of the mess.

Chestnut Sat 03-Jul-21 11:00:21

How very difficult for you. If it were just the adults I'd say let them get on with it but I'm sure you're mostly concerned for your little grandson and rightly so. His health is at risk and it will be impossible for him to have friends around when he’s older. However, once a person gets used to that level of dirt then they simply don't see it. I’m sure lockdown hasn’t helped either. You're on a losing battle in many ways because of the cats and the litter trays etc. If they want to keep so many cats then that's their choice unfortunately.

You seem to have a good relationship with his mother, so hopefully you can discuss it tactfully. It's all about the way you approach it and you'd have to be very clever in how you give her an understanding of the dangers of such poor hygiene but without getting her back up! Very tricky. They will not be able to deal with that level of filth on their own and it should be done professionally. So if you can afford it maybe you could suggest you pay for a professional deep clean, and then have cleaners come in weekly. You could say ‘I realise how difficult it must be with five cats, I’m sure I would have a cleaner in weekly myself.’

If you sense she is getting annoyed or upset at all then you must back off immediately, as you don’t want to compromise your relationship. You could then try a heart to heart chat with your son on his own, highlighting the health hazards and how his son will have difficulty forming friendships if his friends are not allowed to visit.

JaneJudge Sat 03-Jul-21 10:50:14

Peasblossom

Why do you think it’s just your DILs responsibility. If you really think it’s unsafe speak to you son and give him a list of his cleaning responsibilities.

He could be responsible for seeing to all the cat stuff. That would solve most of the problems.

I agree with this too. The cat waste is the most hazardous so if he deals with that?

greenlady102 Sat 03-Jul-21 10:47:32

does your GS get stomach bugs and so on?

Peasblossom Sat 03-Jul-21 10:46:56

Why do you think it’s just your DILs responsibility. If you really think it’s unsafe speak to you son and give him a list of his cleaning responsibilities.

He could be responsible for seeing to all the cat stuff. That would solve most of the problems.

tanith Sat 03-Jul-21 10:44:17

I agree keep out of it but your son is equally responsible of course.

MissAdventure Sat 03-Jul-21 10:41:46

I suppose it depends if your son and daughter in law are happy to live like this, or if it's something that has got out of hand over time.
If it's the latter, you could perhaps offer to pay for a deep clean, or weekly cleaner for them?
If they're happy though, you will have to bite your tongue.
It does sound nasty though.

25Avalon Sat 03-Jul-21 10:40:53

You could offer to pay for a cleaner once a week. Sounds as if she is inundated with work and a young child. What does your son have to say? After all he should be sharing the chores so it’s down to him as much as dil. They ( not she or he) need to be careful of hygiene with so many cats.

Liz46 Sat 03-Jul-21 10:37:51

I understand your concerns but agree you should say nothing.

If either you son or DIL starts to clean up a bit while you are there, maybe you could offer to help but it would be terrible to damage your relationship with them.

JaneJudge Sat 03-Jul-21 10:34:18

I used to work as a support worker and tbh this situation isn't unusual unfortunately. Sometimes we would go and in help clean and make a cleaning rota but a lot of the time the situation would return to how it was previously. Some people just have different levels of normal. It's not something I am comfortable with but some people just don't see it. I don't know what you can do though really as you are related, you say get on well but do you get on well enough to say shall we have a bit of a spring clean one day, it might help if I take some stuff to the dump for you? Get it all ready for christmas?

As someone not related I tended to go in and just start 'helping' to tidy. I know in a couple of cases that meant the bags of stuff stopped happening. I'm not sure what it is with hoarding bags of things, it happens quite a lot. I've noticed someone in my family does it too.

Doodledog Sat 03-Jul-21 10:30:59

I second grandmabatty's post.

Grandmabatty Sat 03-Jul-21 10:27:18

You do nothing. It isn't your child or your house. What does your son do? It's equally his house so equally his dirt too. I say this kindly but mind your own business.

Ziggy01 Sat 03-Jul-21 10:22:07

Hi. Hoping for some advice and guidance as I have a situation that I am very concerned about. I have an almost two year old grandson to my son and DIL. I get on super well with my DIL and she is a gorgeous girl with a big heart and she adores my grandson BUT the state of their home has me concerned for him. I have spoken to her in the past (we have a good relationship) and she made a few changes then it all goes out the window again. Honestly their home inside and out is disgusting and embarrassing not to mention unsafe and unhygienic. To start with I will mention they have 5 indoor cats in a small 2 bedroom house and the entire house is extremely cluttered and disorganised. The issues I see are as follows. In the bathroom there are 6 open kitty litter trays, they often go on the floor and I don’t believe the litter is changed often enough, their water bowl sits in the bathroom vanity, the shower and toilet are filthy and the floor gross. In the kitchen and dining area there are often dirty dishes left piled in the sink, if they are washed they sit on the drainer and the cats walk all over the benches, oven etc and sit and sleep on the dining table. The fridge is extremely dirty as is the oven and microwave. The rubbish bin is an open bag hanging on the pantry door. In this goes cat food tins, bags of dirty cat litter and my grandsons nappies. The carpets are not only stained badly but have a very visible layer of dirt, fur, crumbs whatever all over them. The lounge is dirty. The ceiling fan has thick black dust on it. The window sills are black, the backs of the curtains are filthy from the cats sitting up on the window sills and there is mould on curtains and windows. There is a thick layer of dust over everything. In his bedroom the cats sleep on his change mat which she never wipes over, I have often found his bed smells of urine and or stale milk. This includes any soft toys in his bed. I understand life as a working Mum of a 2 year old isn’t easy but this is beyond an ok state for them to be living in and feel I need to be looking out for my grandsons well-being. What would everyone else do in this situation?