Yes, Peasblossom, I would have done so in my youth when I was physically fit and could not get nicer employment. .It never occurred to me I could get money for nothing.
Good Morning Thursday 30th April 2026
Yes, Peasblossom, I would have done so in my youth when I was physically fit and could not get nicer employment. .It never occurred to me I could get money for nothing.
Well I’ve posted this before about jobs in agriculture.
Consider.
This job pays the minimum wage in most cases.
This job requires hard physical labour for up to 12 hrs a day.
This job is located on a site that has little or no public transport in the hours required: if you live off site you will need your own transport.
Or
This job requires you to live on site, away from your family in caravans or huts shared with several others. A deduction will be made from your wage for this.
This job is temporary. It will only last a few weeks. You will not be available for interviews for other jobs in that time.
When this job finishes after a few weeks, there will be a delay in benefit payments for you and your family.
Would you take the job? Honestly?
It's another Brexit bonus.hour hours
Have I missed something here- as this makes little sense either?
My grandaughter has happily just got herself a job in hospitality, as as her boyfriend. Local areas seem to be doing well with students filling these posts, as has always been done. All my kids worked in the hospitality trade, as I did. The only thing slowing down at the moment is the Covid pinging taking people out of the work area. Maybe cities are suffering due to Brexit, but local areas are thriving. People want the jobs in this area, maybe not so much in big cities. As an aside also , along with my mum and sister worked in agriculture, still hard but now easier with all the machinery at hand to help workers. Some people just don’t want to work.
By its very name, Job Seekers Allowance surely means that the recipient is looking for work. If they refuse jobs for no valid reason then their benefit should be reduced or stopped. I recently watched a programme showing the difficulties UK crop farmers are having in getting their produce picked. Several people had applied for the vacancies but only 4 had stayed as the others found it too hard, so had left. I wonder if the 'celebrity' culture that influences so many youngsters these days shows them a glimpse of a lifestyle they yearn for but won't be able to have on the Government's 'living wage'. Also there are whole families in the UK where living on benefits has become their career choice. It ought to stop.
Kali2
'It's another Brexit bonus.hour hours.
Later we found that they had taken on a 16 year old boy who was far easier to exploit than a grown man'
does that really make any sense?
Yes, the cost will be passed on to the customer. I'd hope that I could see that and make the choice to pay quite a bit more for my restaurant meal, or Hotel stay- or fresh foot, meat, veg, fruit ...and I am fully aware that I am privileged to have that choice.
but I am not sure the majority will wish to do that, not in such difficult times- And I know many will not be able to do that.
Please explain what you mean by "does that really make any sense"
personally I never supported zero hour contracts etc or diminished working conditions for anyone, if that helps
So it’s ok for migrant workers to fill these low paid jobs but not UK workers?
'It's another Brexit bonus.hour hours.
Later we found that they had taken on a 16 year old boy who was far easier to exploit than a grown man'
does that really make any sense?
Yes, the cost will be passed on to the customer. I'd hope that I could see that and make the choice to pay quite a bit more for my restaurant meal, or Hotel stay- or fresh foot, meat, veg, fruit ...and I am fully aware that I am privileged to have that choice.
but I am not sure the majority will wish to do that, not in such difficult times- And I know many will not be able to do that.
Not just the hospitality industry - crops are rotting in the fields because there are no migrant workers to pick them. I’ve a feeling the solution is in our ow hands somewhere.
anyway if it is a result of brexit maybe it should have been considered beforehand
I used to take on local flexible work as I run my own business and I have peaks and troughs but I like (mainly) a set number of SET shifts so I know when I am in and I don't mind being rang to go in around that IF it fits in with what I am doing.
Doesn't happen in this country anymore and all my local places are struggling for staff too.
Maybe we we want better working conditions and more notice than people from eastern Europe?
It's another Brexit bonus. Hospitality relied on foreign workers. Brexit happened and most went home. Now there aren't enough people to do the jobs that they did. Hospitality has never been a popular choice for UK workers and once they introduced zero hours contracts it became even less appealing. Several years ago DH applied for a kitchen porter job in a hotel restaurant. They offered him a zero hour contract and told him that he had to be available 24/7 and always be near his phone because when they phoned him they would expect him to get there within 30mins and work until they said his work was done. This could be anything from one hour to 16 hours depending on the needs of the kitchen. Some weeks he would have not worked at all and other weeks he would have worked excessive hours. So some weeks he would have got no pay and other weeks he would get some but with no way of knowing how much until he got paid. If we'd had children and claimed benefits there would be no way he could have taken the job as he would have constantly been signing on and signing off with the wait for benefits that never came or came weeks later. As if the zero hours, on call 24/7 for as long as we want you wasn't enough they also wanted him to work for a week trial period for which they would pay him nothing. Yes they expected him to work for free! Needless to say he said thanks but no thanks.
Later we found that they had taken on a 16 year old boy who was far easier to exploit than a grown man.
After the cruelty of shut down, many businesses in hospitality are experiencing operating problems due to the difficulty in recruiting staff.
Structures in this industry are such that job seekers are not encouraged to seek work here, owing to low pay, long hours and poor forward opportunities. Many cannot see hope of acquiring a well paid position which could support a satisfactory living. It is not sufficient simply to pay somebody the 'living wage'
At the start of Covid, many overseas workers returned to home countries. My feeling is that the Government, at this stage, has no intention of relaxing any rules that will allow foreign workers back into this country to fill certain positions.
Unemployment numbers will surely rise at the end of furlough and there will have to be a concerted effort to encourage people into work.
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