Poor baby - run home to mummy!

No GSM but what about the Pizzahut? If he was there why not prove it.Everyone then thinks poor old Andrew being blamed for something he didn't do. Or are you saying he could go into a city centre restaurant without security?

Mandy Rice Davies was 16 when she was first involved in the dodgy London underworld and 18 when she moved in with Peter Rachman. So perhaps not a real choice of lifestyle?

Quite Annie. It seems it’s become the fashion to describe any woman who’s got into prostitution of her own free will as having been exploited.

trisher, of course security guards escorted Eugenie to night clubs. I doubt they would follow her or anyone else into a bedroom though.

Mandy Rice-Davies, an exploited woman !

To the trafficking, paedophilia, prostitution, and many other illegalities his good friends Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were involved in Annie. But of course when he visited the home and island Epstein used for his activities Andrew saw nothing. In the words of another exploited woman "Well he would say that wouldn't he"

A witness to what trisher ?

No I wouldn't have expected them to say he danced with a girl, but they would undoubtedly have known where he was that night. If he was at the Pizzahut they could have confirmed it. I wonder why they didn't?
He was asked to be a witness in 2020 Annie I've said this before. He has never cooperated You have to wonder why?

Surely security teams don’t report every move back trisher ?

They are employed to safeguard not spy.

If it is true that Andrew danced with Giuffre do you really believe his security team reported - he is dancing with a girl.

All members of the royal family’s security team report back
every move they make ?

Andrew is not asked to be a witness, he is being sued by Giuffre,
how can he be a witness ?

Well having seen the security people escorting Eugenie to night clubs when she was a student in Newcastle Gemanshepherdsmum I know the security is pretty close. It wouldn't really be security if it wasn't would it?

The above was in response to your post of 9.47 trisher. As regards your post of 9.50, you are assuming there was something to report, i.e. you have decided he is guilty. And you’re now deciding that the security guards are complicit. Just how close do you think close security is?

You must be joking trisher. Epstein committed suicide in jail after the release of incriminating documents, and she claimed damages from his estate. Maxwell being detained awaiting trial didn’t prevent a similar claim. Both of which were settled out of court. Pigs might, as they say.

Grany I think it is a very interesting point. Where were A's security team during all this? Did he just dismiss them so they wouldn't see anything or do they know what really happened. As representatives of the law shouldn't they have reported things?

Annie, Grany is secretly a fan of programmes and books about the Tudor court, with spies everywhere. Of course her views wouldn’t have gone down too well in those times ...

Germanshepherdsmum You evidently know exactly what is in the mind of Virginia Guiffre. It is a possibility that had Andrew cooperated fully with the FBI in 2020 and voluntarily given evidence she would not have filed for damages.

Grany. You have the most odd view of the royal family

You think every move made by the family is reported to the
Queen and the government ?

trisher, the civil case is a compensation claim, it’s not about getting some sort of response.

‘Reportedly told insiders ‘
Im not defending PA, but how often does this phrase get trotted out to safe guard faceless people who can anonymously make statements which are taken as ‘absolute truths’.

He was originally asked to be a witness in 2020. He has consistently failed to cooperate with the FBI or help their investigations. The civil case is just the latest attempt gat some sort of response from him.

trisher he isn’t wanted to be a witness, he is facing allegations,
he cannot be a witness for himself. You know this ,

The Questions that need answered….

Did the Royal Family / the government / the Queen know about Prince Andrew’s visits to Epstein’s island ? To his mansion in New York ?

Who did his security detail ( who we pay for ) report to and what did they say ? (“Prince on island with lots of teenage girls and sleazy men. Some of girls may be underage.” ?)

Was there a reluctance to confront the Duke with his behaviour? After all he is notoriously a boor and shouts at anyone who questions him ?

If the authorties / royal family / establishment knew what was going on – what did they do about it ? Anything ?

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Anniebach does it matter who he would be giving evidence against. Isn't it just possible he could have information which would lead to more of the people involved in this exploitation of young girls being brought to justice?

Who has he been asked to give evidence against ?

Epstein was in prison, Andrew wouldn't be if he was giving evidence and innocent.

Considering Epstein’s suicide ! I wouldn’t trust any of them.

No doubt Andrew's legal team will give him advice which will keep him safe regardless of his guilt
So you have already formed your judgement.

No doubt Andrew's legal team will give him advice which will keep him safe regardless of his guilt. But innocent or guilty doesn't he have a moral duty to uphold the highest standards of behaviour, especially given his status? Shouldn't he therefore voluntarily offer his help to any investigation? After all if he is completely innocent he will be safe and he might help bring others involved in these activities to justice.