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Why do some people inform an adult person who is tall of the fact that he or she is tall?

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ElderlyPerson Fri 10-Sept-21 11:50:22

Why do some people inform an adult person who is tall of the fact that he or she is tall? The person already knows of this fact.

thetallsociety.com/when-comments-go-too-far/

M0nica Fri 10-Sept-21 18:46:20

Sorry, EP, I do not quite get your point. DH was taken by surprise, because the man concerned was not just tall, but excetionally so and made a comment, he recognised himself, after the event, as being inapropriate.

Are you really saying that you have never ever made been surprised into making an inappropriate remark? Although I cannot give a specific example, I am sure I have at some time.

Blossoming Fri 10-Sept-21 19:30:39

When I used to ravel by air on business regularly I could never reach high enough to put my bag in the overhead locker. One morning a tall guy in the opposite seat said ‘Here you are shorty’ and passed it up for me. Then he went to sit back down and banged his head on the overhead locker. Some you win, some you lose, but I’m always grateful for help anyway smile

ElderlyPerson Fri 10-Sept-21 19:41:31

M0nica

Sorry, EP, I do not quite get your point. DH was taken by surprise, because the man concerned was not just tall, but excetionally so and made a comment, he recognised himself, after the event, as being inapropriate.

Are you really saying that you have never ever made been surprised into making an inappropriate remark? Although I cannot give a specific example, I am sure I have at some time.

The thing is that the man was at work, working in his role, and a customer in the restaurant made a comment to him about his physical appearance.

What types of comment about a person's physical appearance are considered acceptable and what types of comments about a person's physical appearance are not considered acceptable?

Did he apologise to the man?

ElderlyPerson Fri 10-Sept-21 19:51:14

Blossoming

When I used to ravel by air on business regularly I could never reach high enough to put my bag in the overhead locker. One morning a tall guy in the opposite seat said ‘Here you are shorty’ and passed it up for me. Then he went to sit back down and banged his head on the overhead locker. Some you win, some you lose, but I’m always grateful for help anyway smile

I have, years ago now, been in a supermarket and small ladies have asked me to pass something to them because they cannot reach it. I have always been pleased to help and I have never made any comment that related to their size.

It must be awful to go shopping and needing to ask for help like that on many visits.

Sometimes the shelves are so high it is ridiculous. A lady once asked me to pass a pack of kitchen roll from the top shelf and I needed to stand on tiptoe to get it!

The staff were stacking shelves using a portable staircase!

However, I did on one occasion see a couple in wheelchairs and one of the staff was accompanying them around the store so that she could help them as needed.

Callistemon Fri 10-Sept-21 20:01:17

Blossoming

When I used to ravel by air on business regularly I could never reach high enough to put my bag in the overhead locker. One morning a tall guy in the opposite seat said ‘Here you are shorty’ and passed it up for me. Then he went to sit back down and banged his head on the overhead locker. Some you win, some you lose, but I’m always grateful for help anyway smile

That made me laugh, Blossoming ?

My MIL was very tall which was unusual for girls born in the early 1900s. She also had a problem buying shoes (size 9), I used to take her shoe shopping but she often had to compromise and buy an 8 years ago, hence she often had sore toes.
They were a tall family and I used to feel like a midget when amongst them at 5' 5" (less now).

ElderlyPerson Fri 10-Sept-21 20:22:12

Callistemon

Blossoming

When I used to ravel by air on business regularly I could never reach high enough to put my bag in the overhead locker. One morning a tall guy in the opposite seat said ‘Here you are shorty’ and passed it up for me. Then he went to sit back down and banged his head on the overhead locker. Some you win, some you lose, but I’m always grateful for help anyway smile

That made me laugh, Blossoming ?

My MIL was very tall which was unusual for girls born in the early 1900s. She also had a problem buying shoes (size 9), I used to take her shoe shopping but she often had to compromise and buy an 8 years ago, hence she often had sore toes.
They were a tall family and I used to feel like a midget when amongst them at 5' 5" (less now).

I remember reading some years ago a letter to a magazine from a tall woman who stated that she had gone into a shoe shop to buy some size 9 shoes for herself and was told by a man, "Madam, women do not have size 9 feet."

Apparently the difference in length from one adult foot size to the next is one third of an inch.

I have just found this.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe_size#United_Kingdom

Quite fascinating, going back to an ancient system of measurement.

Callistemon Fri 10-Sept-21 20:29:31

I was relieved when my DDs' feet stopped growing at about age 12, EP as I thought they might take after their grandma. DS's are long but it's not a problem for a man.

barleycorns I don't think I'd heard of that measurement before!

My MIL's maternal ancestors were shoe makers.

Cherrytree59 Fri 10-Sept-21 20:36:42

Good question Ep

My son is 6'7" shoe size 12.

Hi shot up just before his 15 birthday going from being a similar height to his classmates to towering over them.

He was already at difficult age, puberty and all that it entails and suddenly becoming different from his contemporaries was bad enough but the constant remarks (that he still gets to this day) wore away at his self esteem.
So much so that he always hunches over to try and avoid look so tall.

25Avalon Fri 10-Sept-21 20:37:41

Idky but when I meet a very tall person, I just gaze up and up and have to comment on how tall they are. I am just so amazed but I guess it is rather rude. I just can’t seem to help myself.

Scones Fri 10-Sept-21 20:56:16

I think people who comment on someone, especially a stranger's height can't have heard the phrase 'It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.'

Some people also seem unable to control their manners when faced with a bald men.

SueDonim Fri 10-Sept-21 21:11:08

We had a problem with a satellite dish which, because it’s at the top of the chimney, required a ‘Height Team’ to attend. When they arrived, one of the men must have been at least 6ft 8in tall, but he still needed a long ladder to reach the dish!

muse Sat 11-Sept-21 00:52:17

ElderlyPerson

Jaxjacky

Had it for years, at school it was ‘what’s the weather like up there’ I rose above it…metaphorically speaking!

The answer 'clear and bright' doesn't always go down well!

“Grow up and find out” is one of my favourites.

I’m 6’1” . Parents were tall as are my two children. DD my height and DS 6’3”

I was brought up to be proud of being tall. No stooping. Lucky to have a mum who could sew and taught me.

I’ve not had any comments for a long time till a month ago. At a Pilates class a lady turned to me and said it. Followed by ?How tall are you?. Politely told her then I had to listen to a tale of her holiday where there were quite a few German families who she exclaimed were all giants. Even their children, who looked so odd being as tall as an adult but dressed like children.

To follow this a week later at my eye test, the optician said the same ? question ?” Told him and asked how much he weighed. “Point taken,” he laughed. He was 23 stone.

M0nica Sat 11-Sept-21 07:03:52

EP as I said he realised it was inappropriate as he said it. There are times when an apology is appropriate and times when the best thing to do is keep quiet. This was one of those.

And those are my final woords on the subject.

MayBeMaw Sat 11-Sept-21 08:03:52

I absolutely agree that comments about a persons appearance are unacceptable (for “tall” substitute “fat”, “small”, black” and you see what I mean) but the other thing about the link is that it was to an article written by a woman - so we are in the realm of patronising, sexist comments too.
But it does not amount to informing the recipient of the comments.
I once asked a (tallish) man if he could pass me something from the top shelf in a supermarket and he commented “somebody didn’t eat up their greens, did they?” It was not meant unkindly so I refrained from attributing his noticeable lack of hair to somebody not eating up their crusts.
Just. Don’t. Do. It.

Hetty58 Sat 11-Sept-21 08:15:38

My brother is 6' 5" and it's just been constant comments. As a youngster, it upset him, but now he finds it a bore.

Over the years he's got to know all the comments and jokes - backwards. Now, he quickly interrupts to finish the phrase and then sigh.

Welshwife Sat 11-Sept-21 08:39:12

I am 5’3 and my advice is not to ask tall young men to hang your bathroom mirror! I had my son and SIL do mine - both 6 footers and I could only see the top half of my head!
DGS is a 6’4 and I find it difficult to hold a conversation with him if we are standing close as I am either looking at his chest or get neck ache.
I get so cross needing to wait in supermarkets for a taller person to get me something from the top shelf. I think the French ones are not so high but then I don’t look quite so short against many French women.
I have been out dress hunting this last week and so despondent at the length of most of them making me look like a droopy draws! I have never before so wished I was a few inches taller.

ElderlyPerson Sat 11-Sept-21 10:06:46

The supermarket problem could be solved quite easily if the store layout were that instead of, say, everything being on six shelves that the same layout on the lower three shelves in repeated on the upper three shelves. So, say, half of the pickled gherkins on shelf 3 and half on shelf 6; half of the cans of spinach on shelf 2 and half on shelf 5. Same amount of stuff taking up the same amount of space, just more accessible to people of various heights.

Silverbridge Sat 11-Sept-21 10:31:01

That's adding a lot of shelf-stacking staff overhead (no pun intended) to resolve something that isn't that much of a problem. Most people of average height can reach the top shelf. I'm 5'2" and on occasion have to ask an assistant or any random taller person nearby to reach for something. Or stand on the bottom shelf for a second or two for a bit of added lift. It's not a big deal.

Jaxjacky Sat 11-Sept-21 10:32:31

My son is 6’3» and shoe size 13, it was a pain when he was younger.
The odd joke about my height, 5’11, washed over me. What did hurt was being called ‘big’, which I took as meaning fat, it was meant as tall. As a teenager I took that to heart and I wasn’t overweight.

ElderlyPerson Sat 11-Sept-21 10:57:14

Jaxjacky

My son is 6’3» and shoe size 13, it was a pain when he was younger.
The odd joke about my height, 5’11, washed over me. What did hurt was being called ‘big’, which I took as meaning fat, it was meant as tall. As a teenager I took that to heart and I wasn’t overweight.

Interestingly, the High and Mighty menswear shops used to have two ranges, Big and Tall, where Big meant average height but larger than average girth, and Tall meant tall with girth average given the height. They had labelling such that size information was clearly distinguishable between the two ranges.

Alas, some other shops tend to be more for big than tall and their labelling can be all over the place and confusing.

I once went into a M&S store to get something else and noticed some rather nice light blue corduroy jackets advertised as regular, small and tall.

So, knowing the length of jacket I need I asked a lady member of staff if she could please measure the length from the collar down the back of the jacket of the chest size I needed. It was exactly what I needed! I tried it on. Ah, the arm holes were not large enough, I could feel the jacket pressing it to my armpits, the sleeves were two inches too short. It seemed that the jacket was the same as a regular jacket just longer in the body. So I did not buy it. I can well imagine that the tall jackets did not sell. So maybe management decided there was no demand for tall jackets, but that would be a wrong conclusion in the circumstances.

Yet I was able to buy off-the-peg jackets from the High and Mighty shop that fitted well as larger arm holes and longer sleeves had been desidned-in.

They did once however have some summer trousers, some red, some blue, some yellow and I would have bought one of each, but alas that particular range had been made as if trousers for an average height man but just longer legs, so did not go up over my hips as the upper part had not been increased in size.

ElderlyPerson Sat 11-Sept-21 11:03:37

Silverbridge

That's adding a lot of shelf-stacking staff overhead (no pun intended) to resolve something that isn't that much of a problem. Most people of average height can reach the top shelf. I'm 5'2" and on occasion have to ask an assistant or any random taller person nearby to reach for something. Or stand on the bottom shelf for a second or two for a bit of added lift. It's not a big deal.

It would be a big deal if the shelf broke under you or you lost your balance or slipped and you fell, perhaps injuring yourself and somebody who happened to be passing by, perhaps sending that person hurtling head first into the shelves at the other side of the aisle.

Would it then be "Who'd have thought it, ha ha ha!"

That is how life-changing situations happen.
.

Zoejory Sat 11-Sept-21 11:07:44

My daughter's fiancé is 6ft 9. He gets it all the time but he's an affable chap and just smiles saying he knows!

Oldwoman70 Sat 11-Sept-21 11:12:25

My father was very tall and had a great response to the "is it cold up there" comment - he would reply "yes but at least it means I can't smell your farts".

Silverbridge Sat 11-Sept-21 11:23:27

Indeed, EP and it's a last fraction-of-a-second resort if there's no-one around to ask for help. If there was someone passing by I'd ask them!

Life is full of physical risks. Avoid them all and we'd never get out of bed, leave our chairs, reach up or bend down to get something from a kitchen cupboard ... or step off the pavement.

I could just as easily trip on the duvet, fall over the coffee table, brain myself with a falling jam jar, rick my back or be knocked down by a passing car.

I am not expecting Tesco to reorder it's shelves because I happen to be petite. Which is the point of this thread, isn't is? Not making an issue about the fact that we are all different shapes and sizes.

Shops are constrained by their size but shoppers still expect a wide range and good stock of product lines from even the smallest retailer. That will inevitably lead to some awkward shelving arrangements.

MayBeMaw Sat 11-Sept-21 11:29:50

Silverbridge - exactly. No big deal!
There are infinitely worse things to worry/stress/agitate about in the world. Being tall or 5’2” is not one of them.
I have always got a helpful person to reach something down fir me if necessary - people like to be helpful!