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travelsafar Mon 15-Nov-21 10:54:07

I have been listening to a radio prog about whether or not the Queen should give up the throne to Charles as she is starting to have health issues. The thought struck me has she started showing signs of dementia at 95 years old. Its not long since she lost her beloved husband and like in many marriages if this illness starts the other person covers for them in many ways. Now its about 6 months since his death are they more apparent and she is no longer able to hide it and the family are concerned about her. I hope and pray she is really suffering only with back pain but i have a niggly feeling it may be more than the palace is disclosing. I truely hope i am wrong. God bless her.

Calendargirl Wed 17-Nov-21 19:27:22

Good to see the Queen back in action today, and standing as she greeted her visitor.
Obviously the Palace keen to send out the message that she is still ‘doing her duty’.

lemsip Tue 16-Nov-21 20:56:40

travelsafar what a nasty suggestion for a thread about the Queen. Have you not seen her many appearances on the news recently. She is as bright as a button mentally.. her old bones may well be playing her up and she has lost weight

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Nov-21 19:08:25

Digressing I know but I do get annoyed by Anna Botting giggling and almost flirting with Pearce and Maguire and her time management is awful! Rant over, sorry!

Shropshirelass Tue 16-Nov-21 18:12:02

She seems sharp as a new pin to me, reminds me of my dear Mother who lived to 100 and still had a sharp mind. The Queen has had a really tough couple of years, it is right that she should rest, at 95 we can’t expect her to go to everything as she did before. She can do zoom and that is fine with me.

Anniebach Tue 16-Nov-21 18:09:44

They are on the paper review on Wednesdays, I never miss them

maddyone Tue 16-Nov-21 18:06:44

No worries Fanny.
I like them both and enjoy watching the interactions between them.

Josianne Tue 16-Nov-21 15:05:43

maddyone

I’ve only ever seen Kevin Maguire on the press review on SkyNews at about 10.30. He normally appears with Andrew Pierce, and I always enjoy the nights they’re on together.

It isn't just the arguments between the two naughty boys that is enjoyable to watch, it's when Anna Botting steps in to tell them off, (though she looks like she is trying not to giggle!)

FannyCornforth Tue 16-Nov-21 14:18:53

That’s okay, maddy ‘‘twas me who decided that it was Pearce.
Anyway, tbh I much prefer Kevin to Andrew smile

maddyone Tue 16-Nov-21 13:53:46

Being a bit of a pedant here, but his name is spelt Pierce rather than Pearce. When I looked it up it was anyway.

Anniebach Tue 16-Nov-21 13:14:31

Pearce is a monarchist, Maguire a republican

FannyCornforth Tue 16-Nov-21 12:30:32

Sorry should be Pearce and Maguire

FannyCornforth Tue 16-Nov-21 12:29:23

maddyone

I’ve only ever seen Kevin Maguire on the press review on SkyNews at about 10.30. He normally appears with Andrew Pierce, and I always enjoy the nights they’re on together.

They used to have a show together on LBC. It was great.
Pierce is an editor for the DM, and MacGuire for the Mirror

Calistemon Tue 16-Nov-21 12:06:32

Sorry, I see that question has been asked by merlotgran and answered!!

Thank you.
Poor corgi, that must have been a shock for both of them.

Calistemon Tue 16-Nov-21 12:04:46

SueDonim

A little bird told me that it was one of the Corgis that caused HM to fall off her electric scooter, by running into her path. Luckily, she landed on the Corgi, and just hurt her back - it could have been worse! She was wearing a helmet, too, unlike when she goes horse riding.

shock
Do we know how the corgi is?

Calistemon Tue 16-Nov-21 12:03:32

Georgesgran

I only caught a bit of GM tv today (don’t usually watch it at all). There was a newspaper editor called Kevin who pronounced the Queen not fit for purpose (or words to that effect) as she was no longer able to carry out the duties of her job as pledged. I’m not a great Royalist, although fond of HM but found his blunt, arrogant attitude quite shocking.

I know who you mean, he used to be on QT often and I would question whether he himself is fit for purpose.

Urmstongran Tue 16-Nov-21 11:58:48

I do too. Maguire is a Republican and Pierce a Royalist so they do have interesting and emotional debates on the topic.

I just wish the royal family had “staff” not “servants”. Somehow that sounds so much more condescending.

maddyone Tue 16-Nov-21 10:31:07

I’ve only ever seen Kevin Maguire on the press review on SkyNews at about 10.30. He normally appears with Andrew Pierce, and I always enjoy the nights they’re on together.

maddyone Tue 16-Nov-21 10:28:28

Alegrias1

I didn't see GMB yesterday and I don't know anything about Maguire. However the reports this morning said that he said the Queen can no longer do the job she is meant to. I rather agree with him.

In the last few weeks she has pulled out of visits to NI and Glasgow, and now the Remembrance Day event. She may well be still doing her boxes. I don't believe for a minute she has dementia, she has seemed very mentally sharp over the last few weeks.

But there are obligations on our Head of State. There are things that only the HoS can do, no matter how much her son and grandson step up to the plate, there are things that need her signature or her presence.

All the righteous anger about how she can stay as long as she likes? Well there are constitutional implications of that. What would be wrong with having a Regent? Demonizing people who ask that wouldn't be the behaviour of a constitutional democracy, asking that must be allowed.

I agree with this, so if there are any pitchforks heading anywhere, they’ll have to head towards me too.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Nov-21 09:59:59

Well done Lucca. Kelvin was the one I was thinking of. I can visualise Kevin Maguire now and it’s just the sort of thing he would say.

Well done Alegrias, first class googling skills. No pitchforks headed your way I’m sure. That’s settled then, as is whether HM has to tip up to the House thanks to Annie.

notgran Tue 16-Nov-21 09:51:44

I adore the Queen and as such love all the pomp and ceremony. I think it's because she has always been there all my/our life. I do wonder though when the inevitable happens if I will feel the same about the Royal Family then. Charles, who I have of course never met is a strange character, Princess Anne, who I have met a couple of times (proud boast) seems lovely and knows exactly what her role is and how to fulfil it. It would be a boost to the country imho if/when Prince William becomes King as he seems to be intelligent and level headed. So what I think I'm saying is God Save the Queen! flowers

Anniebach Tue 16-Nov-21 09:40:58

The Queen didn’t attend the opening of Parliament when she was pregnant

Alegrias1 Tue 16-Nov-21 09:37:39

Mea culpa... I googled.

Unlike any of the preceding Regency Acts, the Regency Act 1937 (which is still in force) established in law a procedure for determining the incapacity of the sovereign due to infirmity of mind or body or due to the monarch's unavailability for another definite cause.

Now I'm heading off before the pitchforks-bearers arrive.

Lucca Tue 16-Nov-21 09:16:32

Wasn’t that Kelvin Mackenzie ? (Oops there I go again being the fount of all knowledge..sorry GSM!). And he was indeed a piece of work .

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Nov-21 09:13:25

I think Kevin Maguire was once the editor of The Sun? A nasty piece of work if it’s the man I’m thinking of.

Certain things are constitutionally required of the monarch such as giving the Royal Assent to statutes, but documents are brought to her for signature amongst the red boxes which she attends to daily, wherever she is.

It has been proved during the lockdowns that her physical presence is not essential to undertaking her role, much as people probably like to see her. A possible exception might be the opening of Parliament but I really don’t know if her physical presence then, as opposed to via video link, is constitutionally necessary. Doubtless someone will consult Prof Google.

A regent would I believe only be required if her mental faculties were to fail, but from what I’ve read and seen (for instance her message to COP26) I don’t see that happening any time soon.

Alegrias1 Tue 16-Nov-21 08:29:03

I didn't see GMB yesterday and I don't know anything about Maguire. However the reports this morning said that he said the Queen can no longer do the job she is meant to. I rather agree with him.

In the last few weeks she has pulled out of visits to NI and Glasgow, and now the Remembrance Day event. She may well be still doing her boxes. I don't believe for a minute she has dementia, she has seemed very mentally sharp over the last few weeks.

But there are obligations on our Head of State. There are things that only the HoS can do, no matter how much her son and grandson step up to the plate, there are things that need her signature or her presence.

All the righteous anger about how she can stay as long as she likes? Well there are constitutional implications of that. What would be wrong with having a Regent? Demonizing people who ask that wouldn't be the behaviour of a constitutional democracy, asking that must be allowed.