Charles and Camilla on tour

Talking of fingers and hands, a photo of the Queen on duty today wearing a nice dress, but why are her hands so purple?

Calendargirl

^why does he have such a red face?^

Drink, high blood pressure, too much sun?

Or perhaps he just has a red face.

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... and he has very swollen fingers like sausages. If he were my husband I'd be getting him to the doctor's.

why does he have such a red face?

Drink, high blood pressure, too much sun?

Or perhaps he just has a red face.

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As I've said yammy, I can't find it in myself to care, really.
It makes absolutely no difference to the royals what we think.
They do as they please.

I don't think Charles 'chose' to marry Diana. Wasn't he told he was heir to the throne and therefore had better find a suitable virgin pdq? Don't throw things at me, I'm sure I read that somewhere! Anyway, it turned out be a bad choice for all parties concerned and no doubt there was blame on both sides, as there usually is.

I like Camilla, too. Seems a sensible lady to me with a good sense of humour. I would be in favour of her becoming queen consort, why not? She's certainly cheered Charles up. Incidentally, why does he have such a red face? Is he well, do you think?

I didn’t vilify her

Leaving aside royal protocol, surely it is more chivalrous for the man to go ahead to ward off any danger?
A friend of mine was married to a non- British person, who always went into a pub first. He said that in his culture it was his responsibility to check out that there was no danger to his wife. I often recall that when going into a strange building.

Will we accept the "other" woman we all vilified when Diana was alive

We didn't all vilify her.

MissAdventure

Much as I am not a royalist in any way, shape, or form, I do think both of them have improved immeasurably since they got together. (Looks wise)

Don't you think they have to? They might be the King and his consort in a short time.
Will we accept the "other" woman we all vilified when Diana was alive and then tragically killed?
He didn't marry her when they were young because of her colourful past. Lord Mountbatten was meant to say to him"Those that are bedded can't be wedded".
She hung in tight though and tried to manoeuvre a very young malleable woman, who soon learned to manipulate the press herself.
Maybe she is trying tactics again get the country on her side.
With all her money she should look good, we all would if we had personal dressers and hairdressers though personally, I would sack them if they were mine. She looks what she is a woman in her 70's with a man who can't put toothpaste on his own brush and travels with his toilet seat.
God forbid if mine was like that

Does anyone 'choose' to go through a difficult marriage? I'd always thought that people go into them full of positive hope for the future.

The Oxford dictionary describes 'shame' as A painful feeling of humiliation or distress caused by the consciousness of wrong or foolish behaviour.
or
A regrettable or unfortunate situation or action.

I don't think it's anything to do with something happening outside of someone's control.

I like Camilla too. I think when Charles married Diana he thought he was getting a biddable, pliable young lady who would keep in the background and let him shine in his ‘superior’ position. Diana thought she was getting a loving, supportive spouse who would look after her and put her first like most loving partnerships do. Diana needed love and validation (as we all do, of course), and she got none from her husband and in-laws so got it from the press and public instead. They neither got what they needed. It was all so sad. With Camilla, Charles has the mothering kind of love he always wanted and I think he has changed so much as a result of Camilla supporting him instead of competing against him. Camilla is a mature woman and doesn’t need validation from the public, she gets it all from her very loving husband and therefore isn’t publicity hungry. Just my humble opinion of course.

I like Camilla. She seems good at what she does, not constantly looking for the limelight just quietly goes about her charities and duties such as they are. She dresses appropriately, her hair looks nice, she seems cheerful and has a sense of humour. Not a drama Queen. Charles seems much happier since he’s been with her. They seem a contented couple.

it’s just a shame for everyone that they both had to go through a difficult first marriage

It's not "a shame" for them. They each chose to go through their "difficult first marriages". Something that's "a shame" is an event that happened that was out of a person's control.

MissAdventure

I bet Meghan wouldn't walk behind.
stirs the pot

No, there have been several occasions when she has led from the front ;)

they both seem content with their lives now.

Well, they trampled over a lot of other lives to get to that situation - both sets of children for a start.

Anniebach

Yes and 35 when she gave that interview.

Why is it assumed a 19 year old is always an innocent, naive girl.

Is Greta Thunberg so ?

Charles was 33 when he chose to marry the wrong girl, And older when he chose to have extra marital affairs. What does Diana’s age have to do with anything

Josianne, we are the same, whoever has the dog lead is in front, saves any nasty trips and tangles with the lead!

Anniebach

Phillip walked behind the Queen, I very much doubt he would have yelled ‘wait for me’

... LOL

I agree BlueBelle they both seem content with their lives now. I don't think Camilla particularly enjoys the limelight but does her bit with dignity.

I have some breathing difficulties and my husband tries to slow down to accommodate me but often strides ahead without realising how quickly he is walking. I just wait now for him to notice I'm not by his side ?

I couldn’t care who walks first or last they seem a very contented and happy couple I think Camilla has been very very good for Charles it’s just a shame for everyone that they both had to go through a difficult first marriage
Good luck to them both a good marriage

Well, it's been a good day for me.

I've found out I'm a feminist, and said "fart" in a thread about the royals.

theworriedwell

*It's not particularly a feminist thing, it's a human thing.*

You seemed to have a problem with men in front here.

I hate to see women scuttling around after some miserable swine as he strides off in front having a tantrum.

Anniebach's comment about the Queen in front of Prince Philip ignored.

Sorry I do think it is feminist, maybe people just don't recognise it.

Sorry but for me it is not! As I said ….

I think it’s daft for Philip to have walked behind the queen just as much as it would be daft for key to walk behind William.

Alegrias1

I'm constantly amazed by how many GNers know what people really mean when they have written that they mean the exact opposite.

Yes it's amazing how some posters know exactly what you're thinking and what your motivation in posting is even when their analysis comes as news to you.

I bet Meghan wouldn't walk behind.
stirs the pot

For the record I never thought Diana (a contemporary of mine) was bad. She personified the fairytale princess for me. I do think she was badly treated. I think Camilla acts with decorum and seems pleasant enough and loves her husband. They both look happy and relaxed.
My comment and photos weren't to put anyone in a good or bad light, just to show how it was between a couple who happened to play their arguments out in public. Naturally comparisons will be made