Lush (the toiletries store).

Their web site is a perfect example of how they spin to hide the truth.

They use phrases like ‘all natural” which means nothing in any legal or defined sense. Arsenic is natural after all.

“Safe chemicals” Not proven to cause damage because many have not been the subject of long term research.

“We are workng hard to eliminate… ie we are continuing to use

Parfum. Artificial chemicals

Colouring, Artificial chemicals.

Both of these at very high levels that have been criticised for their environmental effects as well as effects on individuals.

It’s very cleverly written PR but just do more research, looking at their labels and then researching each ingredient, rather than thinking their website is going to tell you what’s really in their products, I think you would be shocked.

But I can see that their stance on trans is the most important thing for you so it’s more comfortable just ignore what is really in the products.

That isn’t meant to be a snide remark. We all have moral dilemmas with organisations that we want to support for one reason but are uneasy with for another.

I feel like that about the Salvation Army?

Lush is very transparent on their website and actually scores quite highly on eco friendly and sustainable score charts compared to many many other companies.

They have far less synthetic ingredients than most brands and my body vouches for that because I am not allergic to Lush products.

They are also always improving.

I can own that I am better off buying a bath bar than a plastic bottle of bubble bath and I do.

Anybody still supporting Lush in the belief they're ethical really needs to google beyond the company's publicity pages. If you did that you'd never spend a penny in there again, unless of course you're not that bothered, which is a valid position, but one that needs 'owning'.

VioletSky

Poor grandchildren.

???

Poor grandchildren.

Hetty! I sympathise; the cheaper the scent, the longer it lingers! Even if you're in a town your unfamiliar with, you know there's a Lush store in the vicinity long before you see it; that awful, sugary sweet stench hits you as you turn a corner!

Chewbacca, the worst thing was a couple of grandkids arriving when mum had used laundry scent booster beads - we had to go out, then stay outside until they left!

Used to like them when they were "Cosmetics to Go" - postal with a brochure.
They seem to jump on any available band wagon these days.

Haven't been in one since my slim, intelligent, pretty daughter was told she needed to wear more make-up and wasn't pretty enough!

Seems the individual store management doesn't communicate or understand the ethos of the company.

Cheap scent appeals to some; each to their own.

I can’t stand the overpowering smell good riddance

I certainly don't want to smell like a cinnamon bun!

Why do people buy these daft, unnecessary, potentially toxic items anyway? I really can't understand it. What's wrong with smelling clean - or of nothing?

Why the horrid cheap perfume on bodies, on clothes and in homes - unless it's to mask something whiffy? It just makes me sneeze so I don't get the appeal.

AmberSpyglass

Peasblossom …Everything contains chemicals. Literally everything.

Yes, it’s just that Lush has really been criticised for the amount and type it uses.

I particularly don’t like the way they have a few organic, ethical products and mislead people into thinking that’s the whole range.

I just thought you might not know.

Can he not see how ironic that statement is?
Really?

That really is ironic. A company that has been complicit in something that plays on MH issues in young girls is complaining about social media being 'dark and dangerous?

I assume the binders are ordered online and that details of the scheme are advertised on social media?

Well that's one shop I'll definitely not be darkening the doors of.

I just love the irony of this statement from Lush:

Mark Constantine likened social media to "a dark and dangerous alleyway," said the deactivation decision is meant to address consumers' mental health challenges and will not be reversed unless the platforms are made safer.

"There is now overwhelming evidence we are being put at risk when using social media," said Lush co-founder Mark Constantine, in a news release.
"I'm not willing to expose my customers to this harm, so it's time to take it out of the mix."

He's damned right it's a "dark and dangerous alleyway", and his company has helped make it even more so. Good riddance to them, the less we hear from them, the better it is.

I used to buy stuff from them for DGD2, no more.

I agree Calidtemon, I can’t even walk past their shop without sneezing and itchy eyes!

Peasblossom …Everything contains chemicals. Literally everything.

Is this a Ratner moment?

Very possibly Callistemon, their MD has confirmed that it could cost them as much as £10 million but he's confident that they'll recoup it over time. They'll need to as, according to their financial reporting at Company House, their profits took a hammering during COVID lockdown.

At least we'll be able to walk past without sneezing - and everyone scuttling away because they think you've got Covid!

AmberSpyglass

I’m a huge fan of Lush, especially their political campaigns. I’m proud to stand with them on their support for the trans community. Obviously there’s no real ethical consumerism under capitalism, but this is a very positive move by them.

I'm not a fan of Lush, but I do admire them, taking a stand on something important.

Calistemon

Is this a Ratner moment?

We can only hope. People power ?

WOW Yes probably tired of paying their Social media geek overtime to remove all the negative posts or saving money because of the massive sales slump caused by their idiotic dabbling in the female form!