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Doodledog Fri 26-Nov-21 19:38:53

This thread is inspired by the one about Lush, but I don't want to derail that thread, and this one is a lot broader.

Are you more likely to buy from (or bank with/take holidays with etc) a company with a good reputation for ethical standards, or are you cynical about claims that any company operating in a capitalist market is able to 'keep their hands clean'?

My take on it is that of course I would prefer to only deal with ethical companies (although, of course, not everyone's ideas of what is ethical are the same), but I can see that it is a high risk strategy for any company that has ambitions to move beyond being a local concern. Any claim that is later disproved can be far worse for a company's reputation than having no such claims in the first place, or even of simply stating that they are operating within the law, but selling as cheaply as possible. H&M, for instance, has been accused of 'greenwashing (ie pretending to be greener than they actually are). I am also dubious about brands that 'donate' something to a charity for every item you buy. You are buying at retail price, which includes their mark-up and on costs, and they donate at cost price, so make a profit on the donated item as well as using it to boost their reputation. In any case, I prefer to choose my own charities.

It can also be tricky to know which products are produced by which companies, as there are takeovers and mergers all the time (eg Jo Malone is now made by Estee Lauder, and the Body Shop by L'Oreal), as well as giant conglomerates who produce across a range of sectors (eg Nestle, or Proctor and Gamble) so a product or range that is in line with your principles one day can be at odds with them the next.

Banking is a whole other issue, as most fund managers will spread holdings over a range of sectors, and again, they can go from ethical to otherwise overnight if there is a merger or acquisition, and few people have the knowledge or inclination to keep a close eye on their pension funds or ISAs.

What about ecological/political slogans (eg There Is No Plan B, The United Colours of Benetton etc)? Do they persuade you to buy, or do you see them as manipulative marketing? Or stunts, such as Lush acting as a drop-off point for breast-binders for young girls, or M&S having bins to put old clothes to stop them going into landfill?

Do you take notice of this sort of PR, or do you just buy what you like if it's in budget, and ignore the rest?

Blossoming Sun 05-Dec-21 23:35:58

I try to buy from companies that treat their employees fairly and companies that don’t support animal testing.

MissAdventure Sun 05-Dec-21 23:41:46

I try to be ethical, but I wouldn't pay way over the odds.
1. I can't afford it.
2. It's unethical of companies to charge more for being ethical.
3. I'm sceptical that any company is ultra ethical, anyway.

Galaxy Mon 06-Dec-21 00:05:57

I think on he whole its absolute nonsense, I was in a shopping centre today where there was an enormous poster describing their commitment to Pride, the presence of endless promotion for Newcastle United slightly undermined that message.

Hetty58 Mon 06-Dec-21 00:08:51

I try really hard to not buy things that I don't really need - or absolutely love. Many things don't serve any purpose at all, despite the advertising, they just don't work.

I'll put quite some thought and time into shopping around (online) for the so-called 'ethical' version, but I'm well aware of the common greenwashing (just there to reduce our guilt and increase their profits, of course). I don't think much of carbon offsetting or charity donations either (same purpose as above).

If/when I do buy, I want something well made that's going to last, preferably wood, glass, stone etc. rather than plastic. Still, anything has to be produced, transported, recycled etc. so everything is 'unethical' in various degrees. It's always best to not buy it.

Caleo Mon 06-Dec-21 00:53:03

Hetty, I believe your post has said it all!

CanadianGran Mon 06-Dec-21 01:46:31

I think part of the trouble is finding the truth in how ethical/green a company really is. You have to dig deep to find out what some of the claims really mean.

For food packaging, one must be careful of where something is grown and packaged. We have stricter wording now, for instance a tin of peas may be labelled 'product of Canada' or 'made in Canada'. The difference being that the 'product' must be grown and processed in Canada, whereas 'made in" can be sourced globally but packaged in Canada. And that is just for the food industry. All industries have their own standards, which is hard to keep up with the info.

We can do the best we can with the budget and knowledge we have. Buy locally if you can, and hope that good journalism keeps digging to out those unethical companies.