Harry’s ‘pop’ at Charles

Lucca

May I venture to suggest that if H and M did ‘shut up “ and if any royals stopped giving interviews etc posters would be bored and have nothing to moan about ?

And people might pay more attention to Prince Andrew. I think H&M are being the dead cat on the table to distract us from PA now that the Ghislaine Maxwell trial has started. I shall now put the coal scuttle on my head and hide behind the sofa.

Talk to grandma is fine, use her name fine, don't talk to her fine, but unfairly denigrate her publicly NOT fine.
If my DGS thought I had been a poor parent to his father the last thing he would do is to tell the whole world. As someone up thread said, many as parents on GN, may feel a chord has been struck, so of course we have sympathy whether we have experienced it or not.

Off work for a couple of years, lived off benefits?

trisher when you walked out were you married with a wage
earning husband, or did you pay rent etc from benefits ?

Some think everyone has savings, no worries about the rent or
putting food on the table.

Those who support Harry’s advise , did you walk out of your job, were you a one parent family ?

Josianne

And that's exactly it Alegrias Harry grasps at anything that has the Queen's collaboration or approval to make his mark. Then the silly fool goes and criticises his grandma's parenting of his father. There was something about cake and eating it in another thread recently.

Oh for goodness sake he can't win. Its Kafkaesque.

Talks to his gran - using her name.

Doesn't talk to his gran - treating her badly.

The Prince's Trust.

Charles has helped so many through this organisation.

Interviewers may not be allowed to probe or ask certain questions but they're sure to be thinking it.

And that's exactly it Alegrias Harry grasps at anything that has the Queen's collaboration or approval to make his mark. Then the silly fool goes and criticises his grandma's parenting of his father. There was something about cake and eating it in another thread recently.

Sorry I was replying to terribull. Things moved on quickly.
I don’t hate Harry either but I’m very disappointed in him and the way he has treated other members of family.

How easy is it to get another job if you admit at interview that you walked out of the last job?

Luckily, we don't live in Victorian times any more.

Leaving because the job is making you ill is not "walking out of the last job".

Not the case with me. I just find them irritating hypocrites.

Calistemon

Alegrias1

I've just been catching up with what some old contacts are doing, courtesy of Linked In. One in particular is a middle aged person who gave up a job because the stress was making him ill, he's on medication and now he works with other people with MH issues.

If Harry talking about things like this makes more people aware of the issues, it really doesn't matter to me if some people think he's entitled to talk about it or not.

Do what you like, read what you like, pretend that I'm trying to tell you what to do, whatever floats your boat.

It's absolutely fine to suggest this if someone has an income.

Many people find it beneficial to themselves to help others, volunteer for charities etc, after they retire and ? have enough income to live on.

If someone is Just About Managing it's not liberating, nor does it make them happy, to be made redundant and worry themselves sick how to pay the rent, feed their children, buy school uniform and clothes for them, let alone tell them gently that Father Christmas may not be coming this year.

Harry lives in Cloud Cuckoo Land and has no clue how many people live but then lectures them on how they should be feeling.
He is completely self-centred.

Rant over.

Well, not quite, if he is on GN I hope he reads this.

Just to clear some things up...

My former colleague is not of retirement age and isn't volunteering to help people, he's still working for a salary. He didn't have a salary for a while, a couple of years I think.

So its not just meant for the independently wealthy. Should Harry not mention it because not everybody can do it?

Somebody better tell his Grandma that Harry needs to shut up.

BetterUp partnered up with the Queen’s Commonwealth Trust (QCT), a foundation that helps and funds youth advocacy projects across the Commonwealth, to give 1,000 young leaders free access to BetterUp’s entire coaching platform....

washingtonnewsday.com/culture-entertainment/for-his-work-with-betterup-prince-harry-collaborates-with-his-grandmother-queen-elizabeth/

Mind it wouldn't matter what he said, on GN he is always wrong. I simply don't understand the level of hatred aimed at him.

I don't hate him. I'm sure he's charming.

I just don't think that he realises what life is like for many people but still offers advice.

I know people who have walked out of jobs whiich they found stressful for one reason or another without any prospect of a new job or any other income .

I'm sure we've all been there, I have too - but how do you pay the bills if you walk out?
How easy is it to get another job if you admit at interview that you walked out of the last job?

I simply don't understand the level of hatred aimed at him.
I have no hatred for Harry, but his behaviour is very irritating, and no doubt upsetting for his family.

I know people who have walked out of jobs whiich they found stressful for one reason or another without any prospect of a new job or any other income . I did it myself once. If you've never dealt with overwhelming stress you might think staying is the best option, it isn't. It's best to leave and be ready for a new opportunity rather than hang on and suffer a break down which leaves you unfit to work. Harry is absolutely right.
Mind it wouldn't matter what he said, on GN he is always wrong. I simply don't understand the level of hatred aimed at him.

Alegrias1

I've just been catching up with what some old contacts are doing, courtesy of Linked In. One in particular is a middle aged person who gave up a job because the stress was making him ill, he's on medication and now he works with other people with MH issues.

If Harry talking about things like this makes more people aware of the issues, it really doesn't matter to me if some people think he's entitled to talk about it or not.

Do what you like, read what you like, pretend that I'm trying to tell you what to do, whatever floats your boat.

It must be the day for talking to old colleagues! I've spent 30 minutes on the phone listening to an unhappy at work person who made their point to HR, who worked round the difficulties even to the extent of changing their outlook and who now sees overcoming the challenges as a positive. Sometimes it is all to easy to say to throw in the towel in a job, but it doesn't necessarily make for a better or happier person.

I suspect, although possibly I'm not speaking for everybody, that some may feel as a parent, Harry's criticism of Charles strikes a chord, because possibly we've been there, albeit in not such a public manner or about such a huge amount of money being withheld. Nevertheless for some, and the many estrangement threads bear testament to the feeling that resonates about offspring per se "ah yes you're being somewhat economical with the truth there" ! So we have sympathy with Charles, because yes it's been our experience too and what recourse does he have to address those accusations. I know one of mine was certainly a complete arse a bit tricky at times, when he presented his version of what has now been rejigged as "my truth" , even he would admit now how skewed that was

This is the nature of families two sides to everything. Royal children not getting on with parents is nothing new, history is awash with troubled relationships, The Kaiser had a difficult relationship with his mother Vicky, Queen Victoria's eldest child, her brother the future Edward VII had an equally strained relationship with Queen Victoria herself.

If so, I hope she shows him my post!

She seems the most sensible of all

I think Doria is lurking on here.?.

Alegrias1

I've just been catching up with what some old contacts are doing, courtesy of Linked In. One in particular is a middle aged person who gave up a job because the stress was making him ill, he's on medication and now he works with other people with MH issues.

If Harry talking about things like this makes more people aware of the issues, it really doesn't matter to me if some people think he's entitled to talk about it or not.

Do what you like, read what you like, pretend that I'm trying to tell you what to do, whatever floats your boat.

It's absolutely fine to suggest this if someone has an income.

Many people find it beneficial to themselves to help others, volunteer for charities etc, after they retire and ? have enough income to live on.

If someone is Just About Managing it's not liberating, nor does it make them happy, to be made redundant and worry themselves sick how to pay the rent, feed their children, buy school uniform and clothes for them, let alone tell them gently that Father Christmas may not be coming this year.

Harry lives in Cloud Cuckoo Land and has no clue how many people live but then lectures them on how they should be feeling.
He is completely self-centred.

Rant over.

Well, not quite, if he is on GN I hope he reads this.

what what what

maddyone

Well if they don’t know they’re being told to shut up, are they actually being bullied? By moi?

Are they on Gransnet

Should we start a thread guessing hat their names are?

I've just been catching up with what some old contacts are doing, courtesy of Linked In. One in particular is a middle aged person who gave up a job because the stress was making him ill, he's on medication and now he works with other people with MH issues.

If Harry talking about things like this makes more people aware of the issues, it really doesn't matter to me if some people think he's entitled to talk about it or not.

Do what you like, read what you like, pretend that I'm trying to tell you what to do, whatever floats your boat.

Harry, in his first paid job since leaving the royal family, is telling people, courtesy of BetterUp, a 'coaching platform, that 'a lot of job resignations aren't all bad' following 'a mental health awakening' ....'and a big component of this mission is building awareness and continuing to pioneer the conversation.' He obviously has much experience of managing without a salary.
Courtesy of the Daily Telegraph, BBC News bulletins , the World Service and the Today Programme. And that is just this morning.
Difficult to avoid.
In passing, apparently it is unbecoming for gangs of people to tell someone what to do, someone they have never met, who doesn't affect their lives, but it is acceptable for one person to tell those aforementioned people what not to do, listen to, or read.
Strange, that.

WHY does Harry not just '*shut it*'
He has a wife, two beautiful children, a fantastic home anything money can buy but what now appears lacking is contentment I wonder why?
Does he not know that all the wealth in the world will never give him that.

Ooh, I just did mine in the armchair with a bit of Brasso.