Should Boris do the decent thing and resign?

Visgir1

Bea65

?Allegra Stratton off her face on footage and laughing ..soo disgusting..

She's gone, left April 21.

?April ... confused then why is she crying today and resigning?

Maggiemaybe

^Dishy is probably the only Cabinet Minister relatively untainted… but he’s so tiny.^

And? Can’t he reach the secret files on the top shelf?

He’s the same height as Churchill was.

I was teasing! I like tall men. OH is a foot taller than me.

I think Allegra Stratton is the one who has been thrown under a bus. She seems to have taken the bullet for the whole of No.10 yet she hadn't been there 5 minutes and was scarcely a mover and shaker. I see she has no choice but to resign but there should be others following.

Perhaps so Whitewave but covert filming at anyones party is also distasteful. Rees Mogg had a party the other day, entirely legally.No, I don’t like him either btw.

The bit of film that we have seen taken on someone’s phone was taken recently and showed Mogg joking about the police and parties. In very poor taste.

It wasn’t covert filming, it was reportedly filmed as part of preparations for televised briefings by Ms Stratton – which was then abandoned. If footage from the actual party is released, which it could be, that would presumably be covert.

Parsley.... but the person who filmed on his phone was there as well, so in leaking it he has involved himself?
Perhaps though, he then sent it to somebody as a joke and they were the ones who leaked it.Politics eh?

Thanks Maggie...... all the ‘tiny’ stuff led me to believe it may be Gove!?

My opinion is that this story has been leaked now because someone has decided that enough is enough. The final straw could be one of many recent government actions. Take your pick.

Actually lemongrove I think the comments about Johnson's personal life and lack of morals is relevant as it is all a strong indication of his character. As a man, he.disgusts me with his cavalier attitude to what most of us consider decency and morality, as a politician I think he is unfit for the job. He will throw staff under the bus in an effort to appease critics, as we know he has no loyalty.

lemongrove

Who Dishy??

Rishi Sunak , I’m assuming, lemongrove.

Alegrias1

So when Johnson tells us he didn't know anything about the party, he's either lying (which gets my vote) or he was repeatedly hoodwinked by a group of people who worked for him. And he was suitably convinced by people lying to him that he felt OK coming on national TV to tell us there was no party, that it was all legal, that all the rules were followed.

That's certainly not the kind of person I want running the country.

Lying to parliament isn't the only reason for a PM to resign. Being gullible to anybody who tells him what he want to hear, or else being a mendacious liability who despises the people he is meant to be working, they are pretty good reasons too. And one of those definitely applies.

He may not have attended this particular party, but that is not the only party held in no 10 including the flat.

He is quite content for focus to be entirely on the 18th, as the alternative is even worse.

Who Dishy??

Railman what you say about Simon Case is like the old saying ‘ are you still beating your wife’?
He hasn’t denied that he was there? Has anyone accused him of being there, or asked?
Whoever leaked all this (and also the video) must know who was there that night, so why are they leaking it but not saying?
It’s bizarre.

Dishy is probably the only Cabinet Minister relatively untainted… but he’s so tiny.

And? Can’t he reach the secret files on the top shelf?

He’s the same height as Churchill was.

So when Johnson tells us he didn't know anything about the party, he's either lying (which gets my vote) or he was repeatedly hoodwinked by a group of people who worked for him. And he was suitably convinced by people lying to him that he felt OK coming on national TV to tell us there was no party, that it was all legal, that all the rules were followed.

That's certainly not the kind of person I want running the country.

Lying to parliament isn't the only reason for a PM to resign. Being gullible to anybody who tells him what he want to hear, or else being a mendacious liability who despises the people he is meant to be working, they are pretty good reasons too. And one of those definitely applies.

Sorry but There had been a directive from himself that there were to be no parties.
How could guidelines/rules be adhered to at a party for goodness sake?? Masks ? Social distancing ?

lemongrove

There is no need for him to resign if he hasn’t told any lies in Parliament about this matter.He says that he certainly wasn’t there at the unofficial party in Number Ten, and that he was assured that no rules were broken.Now there will be an investigation into it.Only then will the truth emerge, but he seemed confident at PMQ’s about it.
Stratton certainly should resign, for a start.

But the guy - Simon Case - who has been given the job of 'investigating' has not confirmed that he was not at that party that followed all the rules.

It's a bit like the getaway driver stopped by the police and saying that no, they'd not been burgling the property they had been waiting outside with the engine running!

Johnson on the other hand should consider his position, having already been party to an attempt to illegally prorogue parliament, and the attempt to keep that Paterson MP in a position for which his actions have broken lobbying rules.

This cabinet has much to answer for over the past 2 years - and the ongoing attempts to throw dead cats into the debate, obfuscation and gerrymandering need to be brought to an end,

Yes Parsley it’s me that is using the term unofficial party.

Ladyleftfieldlover

This is the man who started an affair with the woman who became wife number 3 whilst wife number 2 was undergoing cancer treatment. Decent? I don’t think so. Regarding his replacement - Dishy is probably the only Cabinet Minister relatively untainted… but he’s so tiny.

This is completely not relevant to the question of whether he should resign.
If sexual morals were used to determine anyone’s fitness to be an MP, Minister or PM there would likely only be about 5 in the HOC.

Didn’t he say he was told that there was no party?

Why is she crying now - she found it all so funny a year ago?

There is no need for him to resign if he hasn’t told any lies in Parliament about this matter.He says that he certainly wasn’t there at the unofficial party in Number Ten, and that he was assured that no rules were broken.Now there will be an investigation into it.Only then will the truth emerge, but he seemed confident at PMQ’s about it.
Stratton certainly should resign, for a start.

Breaking news Allegra Stratton crying on the news reigning from whatever the heck she does apologising for her remarks about the ‘party’

And so the scapegoating has begun.

Stratton resigns.