What does 'effortlessly middle class' mean?

Me!
It comes naturally to me.

silverlining48

My opinion. Effortlessly implies that no effort is necessary to appear MC, it just comes naturally.
An example is they have no special ‘telephone’ voice. They always speak the same RP in any situation. Not worried about what they wear, how they appear, the scruffier the better sometimes, so it’s all effortless.
The rest of those to whom it doesn't come naturally make a big show of it, lots of expensive stuff, clothes, houses, cars, jewellery, stuff. !
I know my place.

? yes, like Monty Don?

Tbh it is all such nonsense, but it is a subject the British get very exercised about.

Effortlessly w/c ? Any candidates?

I work. Or I used to. So I am working class. That's the logic, surely. I did go to a private school though. So maybe to some I'm middle. But I'd hate to be called that.

I'm not a fan of calling anyone upper/middle/working class. It's pointless.

I like Monty as well. He's brilliant. Very sad when his beloved Nigel died.

My opinion. Effortlessly implies that no effort is necessary to appear MC, it just comes naturally.
An example is they have no special ‘telephone’ voice. They always speak the same RP in any situation. Not worried about what they wear, how they appear, the scruffier the better sometimes, so it’s all effortless.
The rest of those to whom it doesn't come naturally make a big show of it, lots of expensive stuff, clothes, houses, cars, jewellery, stuff. !
I know my place.

LauraNorderr

The aspiring classes apparently make an effort to use a napkin rather than a serviette, to say ‘what’ instead of ‘pardon’, to sit on a sofa in the sitting room or, worse still, the drawing room instead of the lounge. Whereas effortlessly middle class do it all effortlessly including going to the loo and not the toilet without much effort.
So in conclusion more Imodium needed for the effortlessly middle class.

What about those who say settee not sofa, lav not toilet, use paper napkins, not linen or even use kitchen roll when they've run out of the paper ones?

Beyond the pale!!?

What I'd like to be is effortlessly stylish, whatever class I am ?

Hopefully everyone is effortlessly just what they are.
As long as it harms nobody else, who cares?

Zoejory

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Aveline

I've never thought of Monty Don as being any particular class. On thinking about it it's not something I think about anyone. People are just people.

? that’s why he is effortlessly m/c

Poor Monty Don.

Calling someone middle class, effortlessly or not, is no compliment.

So would you say that being working class was a compliment. I’m not sure if any effort is needed but you do find that some people are a bit shy about saying that they are middle class in case they get picked on, made fun of. You know what I mean.

I think MD is lovely. He puts an awful lot of effort into gardening and I do enjoy his programmes.

And I’m happy to be thought of as working class. ?
It’s what we are after all. I like things nice though. Manners. Table set for meals with all the what nots.

Zoejory, if classes still exist, I am happy to be called middle class because that's what I am. If classes still exist!

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Aveline

I've never thought of Monty Don as being any particular class. On thinking about it it's not something I think about anyone. People are just people.

? that’s why he is effortlessly m/c

Poor Monty Don.

Calling someone middle class, effortlessly or not, is no compliment.

Aveline

I've never thought of Monty Don as being any particular class. On thinking about it it's not something I think about anyone. People are just people.

? that’s why he is effortlessly m/c

I've never thought of Monty Don as being any particular class. On thinking about it it's not something I think about anyone. People are just people.

To be called effortlessly middle class is surely an insult?

Oh! I know someone who is effortlessly middle class

Monty Don

So cool?

I can’t give an example of someone who is “effortlessly middle class” but I can give an example of someone who is upper class with great effort because his upper class persona is without any roots. His personality is built on a myth which is why he is so weird.

That person is Jacob Rees Mogg.

Jonathan Truman.

EllanVannin

There are very few well-bred and well-heeled people around.
Well-heeled maybe but by no means well-bred.

That sounds as if you think being “well bred” is something to be admired, rather than the result of fate / being born into a class that can afford private education, nannies, etc ?

A person born into a working class family, who makes the most of their potential / gets on well in life / enjoys happy relationships, is surely to be admired more?

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Exactly right GrannyGravy!
I'd love to post a link to the John Betjamin poem about class. ' How to get on in society'
'Send for the fish knives Norman...'

To me it means being comfortable in your own skin, not putting on an act .
(This applies to anyone, anywhere)

LauraNorderr, they are often called ‘serve you rights’ in this house ?

Whether it is intended as an insult or a compliment depends on the person who said it, but it is clearly someone who feels they are in a position to judge.

It appears to me rather like an insult from an upper class or aristocratic person inferring that someone of their own class naturally has (lower) middle class tastes.

The aspiring classes apparently make an effort to use a napkin rather than a serviette, to say ‘what’ instead of ‘pardon’, to sit on a sofa in the sitting room or, worse still, the drawing room instead of the lounge. Whereas effortlessly middle class do it all effortlessly including going to the loo and not the toilet without much effort.
So in conclusion more Imodium needed for the effortlessly middle class.

There are very few well-bred and well-heeled people around.
Well-heeled maybe but by no means well-bred.

Without the need to show off, it means to me anyway.