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Prince Andrew Can't Sweat

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Caleo Sun 02-Jan-22 11:27:37

Doing wrong is not black and white even in law.

My own father who of course had never heard of Prince Andrew, could not sweat. My mother , who had never heard of Prince Andrew, told me this when I was was girl . My mother did not explain about the adrenaline thing as she had no medical knowledge, but after Andrew's admission about not sweating . I can understand how hormones are affected by some severe life events. My father was at the Eastern Front during the Great War.

Also in support of Prince Andrew, he probably did not even know that it was illegal or even immoral to shag an unknown and poor seventeen year old girl. Very rich people have odd childhoods, and it takes special efforts by parents and teachers to teach them what real life is.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 20-Jan-22 19:52:37

What you don’t know about Alegrias, and I’m not about to tell you, is how much pro bono work I and colleagues did, helping people with tenancy problems and other matters within our respective fields albeit that our paying clients were big companies and wealthy individuals. Not something the legal profession makes a big song and dance about but without the likes of us who don’t do criminal work inner city law centres would quickly cease to exist.

Alegrias1 Thu 20-Jan-22 19:43:08

Didn't you have admin staff for that GSM?

Alegrias1 Thu 20-Jan-22 19:42:06

Oh my. So many crossed posts. grin

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 20-Jan-22 19:41:09

It’s you who is rude lavendermine and you clearly have no idea of the difference between a solicitor and a barrister. Yes as a partner in a law firm I took my turn at supervising the opening of post, a standard insurance requirement. You display a singular lack of familiarity with actual legal practice so I suspect you didn’t do much with that law degree.

Alegrias1 Thu 20-Jan-22 19:41:01

I don't know anything about the law as a profession; don't even know the difference between a solicitor and a barrister ( please, nobody explain, its completely irrelevant to this post ) But I do like to think that I'd never look down on anybody for their choice of career.

So I find myself wondering, who contributes more to society, who is more admirable? Someone who undertakes to try to get justice for anybody who needs it, irrespective of their background or “class”, or somebody who does private client work for high net worth clients? Let me think about that….no, don’t bother, I’ve thought.

(Sarcasm alert) Don’t know about the rest of you Grans, but I have much more respect for private medics who only take on trivial procedures for very well off people. These doctors in A&E who just treat any old layabout who turns up at their door, I just look down on them, don’t you? Don’t they know that life’s all about the money? How silly of them….

Anniebach Thu 20-Jan-22 19:39:36

The whole bloody forum as many unpleasant posts, what happened to - post not poster .

Some here either don’t know or don’t care how many posters have been driven from this forum the last year and half , decent posters who had much to share and discuss without
using sarcasm or mocking .

aquagran Thu 20-Jan-22 19:19:21

Oh, gsm is very good at unpleasant posts!

lavendermine Thu 20-Jan-22 19:07:34

Gsm what a rude individual you are. You do yourself no favours.
A law degree may be neither "here nor there" in your opinion but I am presuming you had to take one at some point in time in order to get to the Bar or were you just in the post room sorting out the mail!

Bridgeit Thu 20-Jan-22 19:02:29

Obviously pointless to you.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 20-Jan-22 19:02:26

I see that your nasty post has been deleted trisher.

Bridgeit Thu 20-Jan-22 19:02:03

Thank you Iam64,

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 20-Jan-22 18:58:51

So your point was …?

Iam64 Thu 20-Jan-22 18:53:34

I’m familiar with the family courts and those who work in them.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 20-Jan-22 18:51:13

Iam, there are solicitors practising in family law who are in big firms that deal with the big ticket cases, such as I would have referred a client to, and there are those who take whatever comes through the door however unpleasant it may be. Those who would perhaps be paid less than your plumber. A barrister who decides to specialise in family law is bound by the cab rank principle to take the case allocated to them. It’s their choice as to what they decide to specialise in. Of course I would not look down on a judge - a barrister or solicitor becomes a judge only on merit. I respect anyone who achieves that.

Iam64 Thu 20-Jan-22 18:49:40

Well said Bridgeit.

Bridgeit Thu 20-Jan-22 18:48:09

Not a good idea to compare the validity/ importance/ worthiness of how folks earn a living to get by in life.
We all NEED EACH OTHER . Perhaps that is a thought that should be kept in mind when casting aspersions.

Iam64 Thu 20-Jan-22 18:32:56

Can I ask you again Germanshepherdsmum about your views on the solicitors and barristers, the judges who are asked to take a Family ticket. Do you sneer and look down on this group of legal people in the way you do criminal lawyers.
Those in the family division also work extremely long hours for less than I pay my plumber.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 20-Jan-22 18:32:43

I’m afraid a law degree is neither here nor there lavendermine. I was a practising solicitor for many years, a partner in City law firms, and can therefore speak from experience rather than just academic theory.

lavendermine Thu 20-Jan-22 18:27:47

Lizzie72 a very insensitive post. People here reach out for help and understanding, many housebound and in need of the interaction of others.

lavendermine Thu 20-Jan-22 18:25:39

Some of the posts on Gransnet contiue to amaze me, even after all these years.
Germanshepherdsmum @15.44, where on earth do your ideas come from - I have a law degree and I have never met anyone with the ideas you express. Just utter and complete nonsense.

Anniebach Thu 20-Jan-22 18:06:21

So true Callistemon I fear for anyone who now reached out here as I did just over four years ago.

Callistemon21 Thu 20-Jan-22 18:03:08

I may not agree with a lot of posts on various threads and usually try to be polite but there seem to be a lot more rude, unkind and, frankly, aggressive personal attacks lately.
Gransnet has changed so much from the supportive forum it used to be.

Anniebach Thu 20-Jan-22 17:58:57

Thank you Callistemon I was going to reply to that post but it would have been deleted.

Lucca Thu 20-Jan-22 17:58:52

Lizzie72

Some people seem to be making this thread their life’s work. There’s a whole world out there you know? One life, live it, as they say. But, as you say, people make choices as to what to do with their time, with their lives……..

There are times when one feels strongly enough about an issue to keep posting
There are times when everything else has ground to a halt in a persons life.
It’s fine to disagree with posts but IMO we should not comment on how much time a poster spends or doesn’t spend on GN threads
It’s a choice,

Callistemon21 Thu 20-Jan-22 17:52:44

Lizzie72

Some people seem to be making this thread their life’s work. There’s a whole world out there you know? One life, live it, as they say. But, as you say, people make choices as to what to do with their time, with their lives……..

What on earth is the matter with some posters?

Not everyone can leave their homes, may not have family nearby who can visit them and Gransnet might be their link to the outside world.

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