Prince Harry.....latest

6 pages and going strong......

Absolutely agree maddyone.

Sparklefizz

When I read it, my first thought was that he was finding an excuse NOT to come to the UK during the Queen's platinum celebrations. "It's all your fault I can't bring my children over" blah blah blah.

Mine too!

Reading this thread I was just thinking how history repeats itself within the royal family. Firstly Edward Duke of Windsor, then Princess Margaret who both shook up the monarchy, now Andrew and then the next generation Harry.
Is there always someone who kicks against the traces?

Precisely.

But direct blood line of the Queen aren’t all given security. That’s the point.

Lucca

Chestnut

I'm going to stick my head above the parapet and say I think he should be able to pay for Police protection whilst here in the UK.

Whatever we think of him, he and his children are direct blood line to the Queen and if they had stayed here would have had Police protection round the clock. They are only going to be here for a few days, would it really be too much to provide that protection for such a short time? They won't be here for weeks or months. And it won't come free.

A very fair comment IMO

Direct blood line to the Queen……Are they.? Can we be absolutely certain of that fact.

Esspee

Boz

He is the tail being wagged by the dog!

Slightly off-piste; a headline to-day suggested the P.M. leave Office and take her husband with him.

Back-seat drivers in charge?

Should that read “take her husband with her Boz?

Of course. My apologies.

The reason given for not complying with Harry’s demands, as I understand it, is that if police security was to be hired out privately, then other famous and rich people would want to hire them too. And that is not their job. Primarily their job is to protect the monarch, and her direct descendants. That means the Queen, Charles and his consort, William and his consort, George and the other children in the direct line, meaning Charlotte and Louis. Other than that, royals when engaged in royal duties. That’s it! It’s simple enough to understand. Police security cannot be bought.
And it’s got nothing to do with Gransnetters wanting Harry and Meghan and their children to be put at risk. It’s to do with rules, just like Djokovic.

Just posting here so that I don’t lose the thread, excuse me
Off to read it now…

Boz

He is the tail being wagged by the dog!

Slightly off-piste; a headline to-day suggested the P.M. leave Office and take her husband with him.

Back-seat drivers in charge?

Should that read “take her husband with her Boz?

maddyone

Princess Anne and her family and Prince Edward and his family only receive protection when they are actually engaged in royal duties. All other times, no security. Security is being withdrawn from Prince Andrew (not sure why he got it as his brother and sister don’t) and Andrew’s daughters don’t receive security. Harry and Meghan don’t engage in royal duties any longer. It’s a bit like Djokovic, rules are rules. Harry can’t expect special treatment. Anne and Edward are children of the monarch, Harry is not.
Sorry, but I have no sympathy for Harry with this.

Another sensible answer maddyone

Let's face facts if HM and Charles want them to come over security will be provided. If they don't, it won't. Of course William might be lobbying against them!

Germanshepherdsmum

If one person is allowed to hire the police for their own protection it sets a precedent for others rich enough to do so. He’s made his choice. Now he must live with the consequences.

Absolutely! Well said.

I don’t believe anyone on here wants them murdered. Our police aren’t for hire, many private, highly experienced private security firms are.

As Harry doesn’t live in the UK anymore providing a private service even though he is paying could possibly set a precedent for any celebrity visiting the UK who thinks they need security. After all he is no longer a working member of the Royal Family so should not be accorded any special treatment. His choice.

Riverwalk
And I quote from (in this case) Tatler, but is easily found in other publications;

In 2011 the majority of the Royal Family not in the direct line of succession were stripped of their police protection officers, in a move to save the Home Office the £50 million security bill……..Anne only receives it when undertaking royal duties.

So yes, I am sure.

It seems there are quite a few people willing to risk H&M's lives and those of their children just because of their behaviour. No matter what I think of their behaviour I don't want them murdered while they are here.

Germanshepherdsmum

If one person is allowed to hire the police for their own protection it sets a precedent for others rich enough to do so. He’s made his choice. Now he must live with the consequences.

That too.

Our police are not for hire - where would that lead to?

Riverwalk

If a forthcoming trip is Royal Family related e.g. Jubilee celebrations it would be easier for the Met to provide security for them - it would compromise the security of an event if they had to coordinate with a private team for Harry.

If the trip is private then he can pay for private security, just as a lot of high-profile people do. There are many firms that provide ex-Met and forces to high profile rich families of oligarchs, celebrities, business people, etc.

The Met shouldn't be for hire, because that's what it would be, even for a prince.

A very sensible post Riverwalk.

When I first read the story, many hours ago, I wasn't properly awake, that's my excuse, I was pleased that he was wanting to pay for the security and not just demanding it.
Then it sank in, and the concept of rich people being able to pay the police for work which would, presumably, take them away from the duties to the general public they're already paid to do. Blimey. Talk about a slippery slope.

I’m just posting here so that I don’t lose the thread.
Excuse me, I’ll be off now to read the thread

He is the tail being wagged by the dog!

Slightly off-piste; a headline to-day suggested the P.M. leave Office and take her husband with him.

Back-seat drivers in charge?

Chestnut

I'm going to stick my head above the parapet and say I think he should be able to pay for Police protection whilst here in the UK.

Whatever we think of him, he and his children are direct blood line to the Queen and if they had stayed here would have had Police protection round the clock. They are only going to be here for a few days, would it really be too much to provide that protection for such a short time? They won't be here for weeks or months. And it won't come free.

A very fair comment IMO

Who does he think he is? Private citizens can’t just hire our police force. If his US security detail don’t have the authority or know how to protect him over here he can hire private British security. There’s plenty of ex special forces working in a private capacity here. Talk about entitlement!