Prince Harry.....latest

I don't think the behaviour of either H&M or Andrew should be a factor when considering their protection. They are high profile targets, closely connected to the Queen, and for that reason should be protected. I am shocked that people think they deserve to be murdered.

It doesn't take long for H and M to get back in the headlines.
I would think the Queen has enough to put up with without Harry causing more stress for her.
The Andrew problem and the state of her government is more than enough for a 95 year old.

Andrew should have police protection whilst in this legal battle.
Does anyone want The Queen to bury her son.

I Totally agree with Cold the Sussex’s always have to be in the limelight and always suing someone, to think they wanted to be like normal people they don’t seem to be doing a very good job of it.

Riverwalk

I don't think many of us will fret if Met protection is withdrawn from Andrew but people could theoretically die as a result of this. Just as could have happened with Eugenie & Beatrice.

The latter are photographed wherever they go and Andrew will certainly be chased through the streets by the paparazzi without Met protection - he's as high profile and at risk as H&M.

I would certainly say that Andrew needs Police protection whilst this legal battle is ongoing. Later on when it has all died down (presumably this will happen eventually!) he will I suppose be living a quieter more normal life and then it can be stopped. But he certainly needs Police protection for the time being as he is a target.

You never thought it’s there way to keep in the press. If they are not in the papers then we wouldn’t be talking about them. So well done for falling into the trap of talking about them. If I was queen I’d wash my hands of them and uncle as all a disgrace to her.

lemsip

Harry and Boris have something in common. .... they have 'back seat drivers' ....so to speak.

Harry & Bozzer where the same characters as they are now long before they met their wives - they needed no encouragement.

Good point icanhandthemback. Lots of very unworthy people get taxpayer's money spent on them, including criminals. H&M are only here for a few days. If they decide to stay longer (unlikely) then some agreement needs to be made. But for short visits, well it's only a few days!

I suppose I can understand him asking for Police protection (as they are legally armed and have access to classified information on terrorists etc) and I am actually surprised that he's offered to pay for it. But, he should just accept gracefully that the request has been denied and certainly not be making it a legal matter. Their answer to anything they are not happy about is to get the lawyers in. America is a very litigious country and I think it's rubbing off on Harry.

GagaJo there is no Queen of King of England.

I don't think many of us will fret if Met protection is withdrawn from Andrew but people could theoretically die as a result of this. Just as could have happened with Eugenie & Beatrice.

The latter are photographed wherever they go and Andrew will certainly be chased through the streets by the paparazzi without Met protection - he's as high profile and at risk as H&M.

lemsip

Harry and Boris have something in common. .... they have 'back seat drivers' ....so to speak.

Yes,

H&M are very high profile people and disliked by many here. That makes them a target unlike other working Royals. It only takes one nutter. I would not want them killed as a result of having no Police security.

Isn't it a funny thing that the like of Maxine Carr, the boys that killed Jamie Bulgar and other such criminals get a fortune spent on them keeping them safe, giving them new lives all at the tax payers expense. However, a man who has given public service, fought for his country and used as an heir for the country's royalty until he was no longer required cannot pay for proper protection by armed police.
Harry has chosen to live abroad like many other British Citizens but they are not accused of turning their back on Britain. They have been entitled to British pensions, etc in a lot of cases and yet Harry is seen as treacherous.

I was thinking, IF Meghan becomes a very important politician in USA (as is mooted), and then visits Harry's homeland with the family, they won't have to worry about British police protection at all They can borrow Biden's 17 car cavalcade that came to Cornwall!

To answer your question Gaga, yes.

Chestnut Harry might be in the line of succession but ahead of him are Charles, William and William’s three children. So it’s a bit of a fiction and that would be a pretty tenuous argument to run against the next rich person wanting to hire the police. As I have already said, allowing him to do that would set a precedent. And it wouldn’t be acceptable for the taxpayer to foot the bill. If he doesn’t think his private security people - who should not be armed - can protect him and his family adequately then he has the option of staying in the US.

Harry and Boris have something in common. .... they have 'back seat drivers' ....so to speak.

There is not the same level of threat for the others. They also did not lose their mother due to the same level of hostility and media obsession in the way he did.

I'll ask a direct question this time (something I don't like doing on GN really).

If you think he shouldn't have this protection and people die as a result, will you still blame H&M?

Your situation is very different Gaga. Harry enjoyed a life of privilege as part of the RF, with which came obligations, and turned his back on it all. He is not a working royal and should not have police protection just because he is the son of one future king and brother of another. Other non-working royals don’t have police protection. I see no reason why he should be treated any differently. He knows the risks if he decides to visit the country he turned his back on. Entirely his choice.

Exactly Chestnut.

I really do wonder how the 'it serves him right' believers would feel if one of his little family were killed. Or one or more of his bodyguards.

Germanshepherdsmum

If one person is allowed to hire the police for their own protection it sets a precedent for others rich enough to do so. He’s made his choice. Now he must live with the consequences.

Not at all. It isn't because he's rich, it's because he and his children are direct line to the throne. We won't be letting wealthy people hire out the Police whenever they choose.

He is still a prince. He is still the brother of the future king of England. The son of the future king of England. Clearly, there is a threat. He is not the average 'private citizen'.

He is still British. He should be able to visit the UK. I've lived abroad for many years (added up, easily comes to much more than a decade). Should I not have been allowed to return to the UK?

If he comes home without armed security, and there is an incident and he/Meghan or children are killed, will you say it served him right? What about if his unarmed body guards are killed?

He's not asking for a freebie.

Bingo!

Chestnut

I'm going to stick my head above the parapet and say I think he should be able to pay for Police protection whilst here in the UK.

Whatever we think of him, he and his children are direct blood line to the Queen and if they had stayed here would have had Police protection round the clock. They are only going to be here for a few days, would it really be too much to provide that protection for such a short time? They won't be here for weeks or months. And it won't come free.

Think he means his own personal protection, if from US will it mean they will be allowed guns. If that’s what he wants, then definitely a no from me. If he had behaved reasonably, along with his wife , as has his brother, there would not have been this problem. Will they be expecting a pomp welcome from a country they so obviously despise.