Prince Harry.....latest

Calendargirl & Baggs,

It could be done quietly, & yet poor deprived megs wouldn't like that. She has to be seen!
PR stunt, VERY LIKELY!!
I'm sure he has ex-army pals who have taken to security, surely he could hire them. Or security suggested by the 'family', yet not our much needed police who are already quite busy without babysitting them!!

On the subject of Harry's protection I'm torn. Either it should be provided free or he shouldn't get it. I can see the argument for providing protection but he does annoy me with his entitled attitude. On balance I suppose we should provide it, while smiling through gritted teeth but I still think it's 'off' he seems to think anytime he decides to visit the UK the Met should jump to it to provide protection. His willingness to pay is a smokescreen, he's not so daft as to think that would ever be allowed.

Chestnut

If you think M&H should not have Police protection then you should read this. It's a quote from one of the links above:
*In some areas officers are being offered for hire despite the fact that crime rates are rocketing. The force earning the most from hiring out its officers is the Met in London which earned £1.5million in the past year by providing 45 PCSOs to private organisations.*

PCSOs aren't what Harry wants to hire. He wants armed protection officers. PCSOs while a valuable resource to the Met aren't in any way equivalent to Royal Protection. www.met.police.uk/car/careers/met/pcso/pcso-overview/

Calistemon

Chestnut

Calistemon

Oh, not that old chestnut.

That old Chestnut is still here ?

Ooh, sorry!!
I'm not saying you're old either

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If you think M&H should not have Police protection then you should read this. It's a quote from one of the links above:
In some areas officers are being offered for hire despite the fact that crime rates are rocketing. The force earning the most from hiring out its officers is the Met in London which earned £1.5million in the past year by providing 45 PCSOs to private organisations.

Chestnut

Calistemon

Oh, not that old chestnut.

That old Chestnut is still here ?

Ooh, sorry!!
I'm not saying you're old either

I repeat that H&M's behaviour has nothing to do with keeping them safe during a few days visit for the sake of the Queen. We know all the dreadful things they've done, there's no need to keep repeating them. I'd still rather they returned home safely.

Calistemon

Oh, not that old chestnut.

That old Chestnut is still here ?

Oh, not that old chestnut.

Lucca

Wow some of the old bile being flung around again.

No win situation .

Indeed.

Lucca - I believe the inference is that Harry is (possibly) not Charles' son.

Kathy73

It’s the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee, and Harry is her grandson.

And, I repeat, they are asking to PAY for security. His mother died because of paparazzi.

She died because she didn’t have her seat belt on.

Wow some of the old bile being flung around again.

No win situation .

So with all this outcry, whatever means of protection they secure, it certainly won't be announced before the event as surely that would compromise their safety?

I do foresee an additional problem because aren't they being accompanied everywhere by Netflix who are filming them for some documentary? They can't be stopping every 5 minutes for the cameras when safety is paramount, so yet another conflict of interests.

paddyann54

Really Calendar girl have you read posts on here about family not seeing GC ? Are you saying the queen has no interest or feelings for her GC? How peculiar if thats true ,wasn't she supposedly close to her grandsons ,in which case wouldn't she want to see their offspring?

I know full well about not seeing family paddyann as I have daughter and GC in Australia who I haven’t seen for nearly 5 years.

As for the Queen, I am sure she loves her grandchildren and great grandchildren, the fact she hasn’t yet met Lilibet is not down to her. If H&M hadn’t flounced off, she could have seen plenty of them.

The death of her husband, her own health concerns, the mess with Andrew, the chaos with the government, Covid, probably take priority in her thoughts.

They're not really private citizens though, are they? And they want to PAY!
Because they have behaved badly in some people's eyes isn't a good reason to refuse.

I really hope people are getting help with their problems

Harry criticised the way the Queen and Phillip raised Charles ,
criticised Charles as a father,

Megan criticised the entire family and said one family member was racist . Said Kate made her cry.

What a loving grandson

Calendargirl

I shouldn’t think the Queen loses sleep over whether or not she has met Lilibet.

Bet it matters a lot more to H&M.

I’m sure she has been included in future bequests, and treated the same as all the other great GC.

I'm sure it will be one of her dearest wishes to meet Lilibet and see Archie again. Harry too.

She may be the Monarch but she's also a human being.

Lemsip
Why? Can we expect a Motorcade ?

Really Calendar girl have you read posts on here about family not seeing GC ? Are you saying the queen has no interest or feelings for her GC? How peculiar if thats true ,wasn't she supposedly close to her grandsons ,in which case wouldn't she want to see their offspring?

If one person is organising a pop concert yes, crowd control

But bodyguards ?

Try googling.

www.nottinghamshire.police.uk/document/private-hire-police-officers-foi-00149414

www.met.police.uk/foi-ai/metropolitan-police/disclosure-2019/march/sps-agreements-private-hire/?__cf_chl_captcha_tk__=x6r6.VYxhZ_voPajyKwFZd1b2BJl8LETAdn_uW32WAc-1642359613-0-gaNycGzNB9E

And this article: www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-forces-making-fortune-hiring-220033.amp

Which states: “ The Police Act 1996 makes provision for any force to provide special police services to any person on payment of appropriate charges.”

Grandpanow

The police can be hired by private parties. You can see freedom of information requests for previous agreements online

As far as I can see, the police provide paid services for the likes of football matches, London Transport, and major events, but that's for the greater good and crowd control.

I'd be surprised if anyone has hired armed police for personal protection.

I see no mention of an individual hiring police for themselves