NHS staff making themselves unemployed by not having the Covid vaccine

Elaine1 Nowhere on the OP did I see a request that only NHS staff should comment!
I do apologise.

Interesting data here.

www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/covid19deathsandautopsiesfeb2020todec2021

There are a lot of comments here by people who are not NHS workers so have no actual knowledge about vaccinations NHS staff do or do not have to receive. Best not to comment if you don't work in NHS and don't actually know the facts. This is not about whether it is right or wrong to be vaccinated but about the actual rules for front line staff.

loveOc I am amazed at how gullible we are, merrily rolling our sleeves up for a vaccination that has been pushed through clinical trials at astonishing speed.
The average time for NICE to approve a drug is 5 years!

Since my SIL has been ill we have heard dozens of stories of people that have had blood clots as a result of the vaccine.

Many fit and healthy young people have suffered pericarditis and myocarditis after jabs.

My SIL was a fit and healthy ex athlete (team GB)
He is now an ill man.

I am vaccinated twice, I will not have the third vaccine.

I would strongly advise anyone having the jabs to take a lateral flow test beforehand, it seems you are at greater risk of complications if you have the virus in your system.

A Google search will reveal a lot of information though.
I’m really sorry about your son in law.

I would but I can’t do links. I wish I could because I realise it would be helpful (not just on this thread) but I just don’t seem to be able to find a way to do it. I’m on the mobile site.

Maddy please send a link.

The data is 14.9 per million for first dose of AZ vaccine, and 1.8 per million for second doses. This was for people under 40. There’s plenty of data out there, just look. I found those figures immediately.

I think it is very worrying Sago. Healthy young people having these vaccines, when they do not need them.

There is currently no data on the blood clots.

Blood clots are far more common after Covid than after the vaccine. I had to have scans when I was in hospital with Covid because I might have had blood clots on my lungs. In that instance I was lucky, no blood clots, but what I do have, a year on from being in hospital, is scarring on my lungs, left from the Covid and still there after my latest X-ray one year after leaving hospital. Covid has far worse consequences than vaccination for far more people than the vaccine. 150,000 dead to start with.

I am an admin worker in general practice. All the doctors and nurses in the team were almost banging on the door, so to speak, to have the vaccine when it first appeared. I thought that they almost certainly know more than I do about such matters and followed their example. Everything medical has some sort of side effect; I have to take multiple anti hypertensives which I don’t really want to have to take, but rather that than have a stroke!

BUPA told him blood clots were common after the vaccines.

They are also common after catching Covid.

One of DIL's suddenly developed headaches. They started so suddenly and so sever she was hospitalised twice in a matter of weeks. She was diagnosed with 'CVT' headaches and told she had probably had a small blood clot but it did not show up on a scan, which she eventfully had. Had she have had a scan straight away, would it have shown up? This happened quite shortly after having had the pfizer vaccine. She appears now.

They did this with carers and we cannot employ people now. I think it's a really bad idea

My SIL has two blood clots one on each lung after his 2nd vaccine.
The NHS have not been able to honour his next appointment to do another scan, he contacted his private health provider who said he is not covered as the vaccine is experimental.

He is now unable to travel abroad for work, taking a drug that gives him dreadful side effects and will be a few thousand pounds lighter as he is paying himself for scans and a haematologist.

BUPA told him blood clots were common after the vaccines.
There is no come back.

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I’m on the fence over this to be honest. I’m vaccinated so I’ve hopefully protected myself as far as. The unvaccinated people I don’t feel they put me at risk. I could catch it from anyone. Those who don’t get themselves vaccinated are more likely to take up hospital beds with Covid and as the NHS has such a huge backlog at present, that does seem selfish - gambling over stretched NHS resources needing a bed and staff.

I’m pretty certain Sajid Javid is looking for the long grass to kick this can into.

Best they go. If they can’t have the vaccine, don’t employ them.,

I have my doubts anybody will be sacked. It is safe to work and be treated by unvaccinated people during a pandemic in the winter but not safe to work and be treated by unvaccinated people in the summer after the pandemic??? Ridiculous. I tend to think they have thought about this now and hence, will make sure it is all over before the sackings have to start.

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Sorry - well SAID!! ?‍♀️

AmberSpyglass

I’d rather not be treated by someone whose critical thinking is so poor they don’t have a vaccine during a pandemic.

Well sad!

@Twinlolly

Those who have had the experimental 'vaccine' also can infect their patients. The 'vaccine' does NOT STOP people from spreading the virus.

No, the vaccine doesn't stop the virus but every doctor I hear on the radio, tv or even face to face says that...

If you're vaccinated, you're 'less likely' to contract Covid than if you're not vaccinated and you will have milder symptoms, thus meaning that you're 'less likely' to pass it on and if you do, you're passing on a weaker strain than someone unvaccinated would.

Therefore, for our own protection and that of others, it's far more sensible to have the vaccine than not. Already, in the 12/13 months the vaccine has been available it has drastically cut the number of hospitalisations and ultimately deaths, if this virus was only being passed between vaccinated people it would soon become far less dangerous but whilst there are still unvaccinated people spreading it around were going to continue to see deaths caused by it.