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NHS staff making themselves unemployed by not having the Covid vaccine

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Harmonypuss Wed 19-Jan-22 04:44:13

I've been talking about this for months, ever since my neighbour (a nurse) said that they would not take the vaccine.
The majority of people believe that those who go into medical/caring professions 'care', primarily about the patients they are being paid to look after which I'm certain is the case for many but it does make you wonder sometimes the way some people are behaving over this vaccine.
As a PP has said, doctors are obliged to have Hepatitis vaccines, so why not other members of staff with direct patient contact?
I see this move to make it compulsory for all healthcare workers to have this vaccine as a very sensible thing.
I saw a doctor and a nurse on TV yesterday morning saying that they're prepared for losing their jobs and were adamant that they won't be having the vaccine. In fact, one of them was married to another doctor or nurse (can't remember which), he was in the same situation and refusing the vaccine, so 3 months from now that household will be losing both of its incomes.
I used to work in the NHS in Mental Health, I was administrative, originally in a forensic hospital setting but more latterly within the Health Authority in a more advisory situation, although we did have contact with users of MH services, a few of whom had the potential to be violent. A number of my team (myself included) opted to have the Hepatitis vaccine because no-one knows what illnesses/diseases anyone has and could pass on if we were unfortunate enough to find ourselves in a possibly violent encounter.
My personal policy has always been to do everything I can to protect myself, my family and everyone else around me in the best way possible.

TwinLolly Wed 19-Jan-22 04:43:22

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Lincslass Wed 19-Jan-22 03:57:46

Sago

It’s a new vaccine!
We don’t know what the outcome maybe.
Drugs that doctors and nurses administer are tried tested.

You think the vaccine wasn’t tried and tested. How long should we have waited for it to be tested, 5 years is usual. How many more deaths would there have been in that case. My admiration is for those brave people who tested the vaccine to enable us to have its benefits. My disdain is for those medical staff who are willing to infect their patients. All the Nurses I am in contact with have had theirs, many of them young women.

Sago Wed 19-Jan-22 00:14:26

It’s a new vaccine!
We don’t know what the outcome maybe.
Drugs that doctors and nurses administer are tried tested.

VANECAM Tue 18-Jan-22 23:49:40

When not “then”

AmberSpyglass Tue 18-Jan-22 23:43:34

I’d rather not be treated by someone whose critical thinking is so poor they don’t have a vaccine during a pandemic.

maddyone Tue 18-Jan-22 23:34:18

I don’t understand the reasons why staff would choose not have the vaccine, but I don’t think it’s unfair if they know the requirement and refuse. Doctors have always had to have the Hep B vaccine. What’s the difference?

VANECAM Tue 18-Jan-22 23:32:39

Strikes me as odd that medical people take the position not to take the vaccination.

On any ward of any hospital the medication trolly with a vast array of tablets and potions will be wheeled around with regularity.

How many patients will question the make up of the medication and how long it’s been used for/licensed and the side effects etc.

How can you possibly be in a position where you administer the stuff as part of your job trusting that the medication will do what it says on the tin but begin to refuse medical advice then it starts being personal.

Sago Tue 18-Jan-22 23:01:04

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LOUISA1523 Tue 18-Jan-22 22:54:13

It was preferable to the 3 nurses i work with who were unvaccinated ( out of a team of 50) ....after the NHS vaccination rules came out they all decided that they would prefer to keep their nhs salary....good pension, annual leave and sickness benefits..... but I'm sure there will be a very very small minority, come April, who will chose to leave their employment rather than be vaccinated....I have not come across such a person myself so could not comment on their reasoning

Elizabeth27 Tue 18-Jan-22 22:32:31

I am sure they know the consequences of their actions so must feel very strongly about not having the vaccine.

I have not spoken to anyone in this situation so do not understand their reasons.

Harmonypuss Tue 18-Jan-22 22:14:40

I understand that it's everyone's personal choice whether to have the vaccine or not but do the people working in the NHS and refusing to have the vaccine realise that not only will they lose their jobs but the DWP won't be giving them unemployment benefits immediately because they will have (according to DWP rules) "made themselves unemployed".
Basically, anyone who loses their job because they've done something bad or not followed their employer's rules (in this case having the vaccine) will have benefits withheld for anything up to 6 months.
If people choose to take holidays abroad, they require a passport, if they choose to go to certain countries for those holidays they are required to have certain vaccinations, so if you choose to work in the NHS you have a responsibility to protect your own health and that of others, therefore it's a real no-brainer.
Surely, a quick vaccination is far preferable to being without cash for 6 months!