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Calendargirl Sat 22-Jan-22 09:38:51

Been discussed before, I know, but in the DT today, it seems that support for this to be the Duchess of Cornwall’s title in the fullness of time is ever more likely.

I, for one, would be pleased to see this happen. Princess Consort would be a silly title for the wife of the King.

I have never thought Charles will allow his beloved wife to hold an inferior title.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 08-Feb-22 09:21:10

I remember the conspiracy theorists suggesting that Diana had been disposed of because it was feared that she might have children by Dodi who would be Muslims. Also his father was a very controversial character who had, it was said, done all he could to foster the relationship. Don’t remember criticism of her relationship with Hasnat Khan though. Perhaps because he was a surgeon and his father wasn’t Mohammed Al Fayed.

Jaberwok Tue 08-Feb-22 09:11:50

Prince Philip was offered the title of Prince Consort, but he refused as he didn't wish to be compared to Prince Albert, who it was said, influenced Queen Victoria to the point of running affairs of state through her, making him quite unpopular, and her ineffectual. I certainly don't remember any adverse comments or feelings about Dodi. Nobody I knew mentioned it one way or the other, why would we? it simply wasn't an issue.

FannyCornforth Tue 08-Feb-22 08:59:59

Yes, it is believed (by me wink) that Diana was heartbroken about the end of her relationship with Hasnat Kahn.

Beswitched Tue 08-Feb-22 08:51:36

Mollygo

Diana’s death was not important to the whole country. Many people were upset whether they liked her or not, because of the fact that she died. That’s natural, but not important to the country. Many people were just as horrified by the fact that she was with Dodi Fayed as they were by her death. Commentaries in France, where I was at the time also mentioned how shocked the British people were by the fact that Diana was with Mr Fayed.
She’s dead. if you think she have would have denied either herself or PC the right to future happiness, it paints a different picture.

It's a long time ago now but I honestly don't recall any horror at Diana being with Dodi Al Fayed. They had only been together a few weeks and I think most people assumed she was just having a dalliance with a rich playboy. There was probably a bit of eye rolling as public opinion was beginning to turn against her, but he was just viewed as another unsuitable boyfriend who she probably wasn't serious about.

vegansrock Tue 08-Feb-22 06:34:36

Her Maj didn’t make Phillip Prince Consort - just sayin…

lemsip Mon 07-Feb-22 23:23:46

Sources say Prince William is pragmatic about Camilla's role in his father's life and the future of the monarchy
There were huge family rows in the early stages of Charles and Camilla's marriage as everyone found their feet. William didn't have the best relationship with his father back then.
from DM tonight

nadateturbe Mon 07-Feb-22 23:11:29

I avoided the thread because I knew Diana would be criticised again. Just looked at last few pages.
I simply do not understand the obsessive need by the usual suspect to keep doing this in such an unpleasant manner. It is so distasteful.

Lucca Mon 07-Feb-22 22:26:06

Sparklefizz

Was surprised to see that this thread was still active today so have just come on to take a look, only to find that Diana is still being slagged off by the usual suspects who are raking up the same old stories.

Can't she just be left to rest in peace? (I think I posted that on p.2 or 3)

Clearly not sparklefizz!. I find it weird obsessive and distasteful to constantly go on about all Diana’s faults …

MissAdventure Mon 07-Feb-22 22:11:32

I don't remember anyone being shocked about Dodi.
As has been said, times move on, we aren't still at the point where people are shocked about her companion, surely?

Anniebach Mon 07-Feb-22 22:08:53

GagaJo what crisis occurred for the country ?

And the country was not in Althorpe , many people threw flowers at the hearse , not millions of people , many people.

welbeck Mon 07-Feb-22 22:06:59

why would people be upset that diana was with dodi al-fayed; i don't remember hearing seeing that at the time or since.
certainly was not a widespread feeling in uk.
sounds odd. ? mollygo ?

Jaberwok Mon 07-Feb-22 22:06:08

Of course she is human with everything that goes with being human. She just doesn't go on about things or make a fuss. Never explain, never complain. Most of the RF are the same, they just get on with it. One exception is Prince Harry who never seems to stop tediously whining about all the hardships he has to endure in his multi million pound lifestyle poor darling!

Jaberwok Mon 07-Feb-22 21:56:47

I'm sure there were, there were flowers everywhere, her death was a tragedy, but it was not important to the country, if so, in what respect? I've no idea whether the Queen has or is supporting Andrew, as she's never uttered a word about it. I don't see how anyone else knows either.

Josieann Mon 07-Feb-22 21:54:05

When the Queen said about that annus horribilis in her Christmas speech I think she really did show that she is human and does get upset like the rest of us. I'm sure she would have wanted to make everything right for William and Harry at the time of Diana's death.

GagaJo Mon 07-Feb-22 21:38:52

Anniebach

Diana’s death was not important to the country, it was a tragedy and many were shocked and sad but it did not cause
a crisis for the country.

You must have been elsewhere at the time.

I was in a town which was on the route the car carrying her took on the way back to Althorpe, the day after her funeral. There were still flowers on the roads.

GagaJo Mon 07-Feb-22 21:34:35

Jaberwok

Well, if it had been me under the same circumstances with my grandchildren, their welfare would far outweigh any weeping and wailing public demanding that I come back to London, leaving them to get on with it, while I talk to said public, oh and make sure the flag was at half mast. Those children would have been far more important.

Who said they weren't?

It would have taken seconds to request the flag be taken down.

Anniebach Mon 07-Feb-22 21:29:23

I don’t understand why anyone can say the Queen backed Andrew, she has never publicly said one word about him .

Mollygo Mon 07-Feb-22 21:25:36

Diana’s death was not important to the whole country. Many people were upset whether they liked her or not, because of the fact that she died. That’s natural, but not important to the country. Many people were just as horrified by the fact that she was with Dodi Fayed as they were by her death. Commentaries in France, where I was at the time also mentioned how shocked the British people were by the fact that Diana was with Mr Fayed.
She’s dead. if you think she have would have denied either herself or PC the right to future happiness, it paints a different picture.

Jaberwok Mon 07-Feb-22 21:22:25

Exactly Annie.

Jaberwok Mon 07-Feb-22 21:21:37

Well, if it had been me under the same circumstances with my grandchildren, their welfare would far outweigh any weeping and wailing public demanding that I come back to London, leaving them to get on with it, while I talk to said public, oh and make sure the flag was at half mast. Those children would have been far more important.

Anniebach Mon 07-Feb-22 21:15:39

Diana’s death was not important to the country, it was a tragedy and many were shocked and sad but it did not cause
a crisis for the country.

GagaJo Mon 07-Feb-22 21:08:17

She did not appreciate how important Diana's death was to the country. No one is suggesting she should have abandoned her DGC. But the 'stiff upper lip' and the refusal to lower the flag were not what was needed.

In the same way she backed Andrew, longer than she should. She is also not thinking of the country, or unusually, the crown, by wanting Camilla to be queen. It will weaken the monarchy if that happens.

Just as well really, IMO. It's past its best.

MissAdventure Mon 07-Feb-22 21:04:02

Oops!
I meant lowering the flag herself.

MissAdventure Mon 07-Feb-22 21:03:08

Jaberwok

Her grandsons were more important than a flag.

I don't think she would have been lowering herself.
That's what staff are for.

Anniebach Mon 07-Feb-22 20:44:12

A grandmother was given a choice, comfort her grandchildren or leave for London because hysterical people were sobbing -
the Queen should be here, the latter I assume was what some believe was’ not reading the country well ‘.