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Calendargirl Sat 22-Jan-22 09:38:51

Been discussed before, I know, but in the DT today, it seems that support for this to be the Duchess of Cornwall’s title in the fullness of time is ever more likely.

I, for one, would be pleased to see this happen. Princess Consort would be a silly title for the wife of the King.

I have never thought Charles will allow his beloved wife to hold an inferior title.

Jaberwok Mon 07-Feb-22 20:37:40

Her grandsons were more important than a flag.

MissAdventure Mon 07-Feb-22 20:28:03

I'm not sure what support anyone expected the queen to give them.

Zoejory Mon 07-Feb-22 20:26:50

Jaberwok

At the time of Diana's death the Queen was at Balmoral, with her were her Son and her two young Grandsons,. The Queen had to decide whether she stayed at Balmoral to support her very young grandsons who were basically no more than children, or did she go back to London to support a hysterical mob of weeping public who frankly had never met Diana and were behaving quite ridiculously. She did absolutely the right thing in putting her grandsons shock and grief at the loss of their mother first and foremost and stay exactly where she was to comfort and support them. The public just had to wait,her grandsons were much more important.

Very true, Jaberwok

MissAdventure Mon 07-Feb-22 20:24:05

And she lowered the flag, too, eventually.

Jaberwok Mon 07-Feb-22 20:20:06

At the time of Diana's death the Queen was at Balmoral, with her were her Son and her two young Grandsons,. The Queen had to decide whether she stayed at Balmoral to support her very young grandsons who were basically no more than children, or did she go back to London to support a hysterical mob of weeping public who frankly had never met Diana and were behaving quite ridiculously. She did absolutely the right thing in putting her grandsons shock and grief at the loss of their mother first and foremost and stay exactly where she was to comfort and support them. The public just had to wait,her grandsons were much more important.

Anniebach Mon 07-Feb-22 19:16:19

GagoJo where is your proof he mistreated her, if you want to continue avoiding producing evidence and repeat the tabloids
i will join you.

A groundsman at Clarence House said in an interview-
the night before the wedding Diana was joyfully jigging around
the gardens singing ‘tomorrow I will be the princess of Wales’

An ex staff member said in an interview she went to visit a man who was in rehab , gave him some booze and questioned him about Kanga Tyron’s relationship with Charles

GagaJo Mon 07-Feb-22 18:56:53

62Granny

I think the reason the Queen as made this announcement, is that no one can can say it would not be something she would have wanted when she is gone. I wish people would get over Diana, they married it was not a happy marriage they divorced end of. Prince Charles married the women he always wanted to marry in the first place.

It isn't 'end of' 62Granny. That is your perspective.

The 'end of' was the untimely death of a young woman, very damaged by the treatment of her by the RF.

The issue isn't the divorce. It is 1) being deceptive about why he was marrying her, 2) adultery, 3) mistreating her while married causing extreme mental distress, 4) his family having little sympathy for her.

I don't think anyone is bothered by him remarrying. The oly issue is that Camilla shouldn't be Queen.

Yes, the Queen is giving us her perspective. But as we know, she doesn't always 'read' the country well. Never did she prove that more than after Diana's death.

Jaberwok Mon 07-Feb-22 17:59:59

Yes of course it is. She deserved to find happiness exactly the same way as we all do. She might well have married again and had more children, or not, who knows. No one deserves what happened to her, but why oh why did she not wear a seat belt, why did go in a car with a drunken driver? why go at all knowing the Paparazzi were waiting for her? why not spend the night in the Ritz, owned by Dodi's father, and travel the next day under police escort or helicopter if necessary? Why didn't Dodi care for her properly? They paid a very heavy price for being so foolish and irresponsible.

62Granny Mon 07-Feb-22 17:59:09

I think the reason the Queen as made this announcement, is that no one can can say it would not be something she would have wanted when she is gone. I wish people would get over Diana, they married it was not a happy marriage they divorced end of. Prince Charles married the women he always wanted to marry in the first place.

Josieann Mon 07-Feb-22 17:50:58

Plenty of royal brides married young and even had babies young, yet their marriages lasted a lifetime. I don't think we can measure it by actual age, but maybe more by maturity. Camilla's involvement was clearly an enormous issue, but like Annie said, was anything physical going at the time? More like Charles had stuff going on in his head and only Camilla seems to be skilful at understanding him. But what do I know?

Anniebach Mon 07-Feb-22 17:47:54

It’s so sad Diana and Hasnet Khan failed to make it work, she even went to Pakistan to visit his family, two years together.

Grandma70s Mon 07-Feb-22 17:29:38

Camilla isn’t a very regal name, somehow. Nor is Diana.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 07-Feb-22 17:21:39

And I expect Diana would have married again too, maybe had more children.

Jaberwok Mon 07-Feb-22 17:19:51

There is absolutely no evidence to support your last sentence GagaJo. What we do know is that that marriage was a big mistake and made two people very unhappy. 'Doomed before they even took the vow' sadly. They made each other unhappy and they both needed to be able to start again with somebody who didn't make them unhappy, which P.C has successfully done. Its what lots of us do so who would deny him that? As for adultery, well, I don't think that condemns anyone to a life of penance or ever should have.

Anniebach Mon 07-Feb-22 17:18:07

All 19 year girls are naive, innocent, not capable of thinking
‘That’s the bloke I want ‘ and setting out to get him.

Daisend1 Mon 07-Feb-22 17:15:53

No surprise that Camilla has enjoyed increased popularity over the last decade .A different generation,? different views ? Like wise the views concerning Edward and Mrs Simpson's relationship.Memories fade life goes on.

GagaJo Mon 07-Feb-22 17:04:26

Jaberwok

Oh F goodness S, all this moral outrage, its all so long ago now, times change attitudes change, the marriage failed like lots do, even people on this thread have failed marriages! Its always a difficult, unhappy time, people find happiness elsewhere , Diana was no exception, she did get involved with married men causing at least one divorce, with children. Princess Anne divorced and married again , a love child involved, not a happy time, but she has found happiness and by all accounts so has her former husband, which has to be a good thing. There was fault on both sides and they were ill matched from day 1, Nobody was deliberately cruel to Diana,she was often a foolish undignified young woman and her own worst enemy, as she was on that fateful night.

I think the key word in your whole paragraph is 'young'. 19. Not much more than a child.

Opposed to two adults already engaged in an adulterous relationship.

Anniebach Mon 07-Feb-22 16:57:56

Jaberwok a fair post.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 07-Feb-22 16:57:36

Hear, hear jaberwok.

Anniebach Mon 07-Feb-22 16:55:57

Sparklefizz

Can Diana being left in peace when some are still saying really
cruel things about people still alive and using Diana to do so ?

Still waiting for evidence that Charles and Camilla were having
an affair at the time of the marriage, no one has produced any
yet.

Jaberwok Mon 07-Feb-22 16:53:18

Oh F goodness S, all this moral outrage, its all so long ago now, times change attitudes change, the marriage failed like lots do, even people on this thread have failed marriages! Its always a difficult, unhappy time, people find happiness elsewhere , Diana was no exception, she did get involved with married men causing at least one divorce, with children. Princess Anne divorced and married again , a love child involved, not a happy time, but she has found happiness and by all accounts so has her former husband, which has to be a good thing. There was fault on both sides and they were ill matched from day 1, Nobody was deliberately cruel to Diana,she was often a foolish undignified young woman and her own worst enemy, as she was on that fateful night.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 07-Feb-22 16:50:49

‘^Diana was 19 when they got engaged so very naive^‘.

I was engaged at 17 and married at 19. As has been said upthread, she was not naive about the RF, having mixed in their circles her whole life. And a friend who used to go shooting with Earl Spencer has told me enough for me to know that she was anything but naive in other respects and actively pursued Charles. My friend is a person of integrity and I have no reason to disbelieve him.

Smileless2012 Mon 07-Feb-22 16:35:51

I think the Queen was right to make her wishes known about wanting Camilla to be Queen Consort when Charles becomes king.

Sparklefizz Mon 07-Feb-22 16:31:09

Was surprised to see that this thread was still active today so have just come on to take a look, only to find that Diana is still being slagged off by the usual suspects who are raking up the same old stories.

Can't she just be left to rest in peace? (I think I posted that on p.2 or 3)

sazz1 Mon 07-Feb-22 16:15:40

Sorry but maybe this is not a popular opinion but to me I think she is Queen of Tarts.
Charles and her ruined Diana's life causing mental health and bullemia because of their affair. She even went to their wedding knowing she was sleeping with the groom. Charles deliberately married Diana to use her for an heir. He never loved her or cared about her. They are both disgusting people and as for King and Queen just 2 adulterous people. Who would curtsey and bow to them? Diana was 19 when they got engaged and very naive.
She even tried dressing like Diana at one point but she's too ugly inside and out.