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Calendargirl Sat 22-Jan-22 09:38:51

Been discussed before, I know, but in the DT today, it seems that support for this to be the Duchess of Cornwall’s title in the fullness of time is ever more likely.

I, for one, would be pleased to see this happen. Princess Consort would be a silly title for the wife of the King.

I have never thought Charles will allow his beloved wife to hold an inferior title.

Mollygo Sun 23-Jan-22 10:49:46

My Nan described them all as ‘no better than they ought to be’.

FannyCornforth Sun 23-Jan-22 10:47:07

Philip’s mother was certainly a character, but I’m guessing that Annie is referring to the Queen Mother?
I’ve no idea really

Lucca Sun 23-Jan-22 10:44:05

I’m guessing he had two grandmothers. Still not attributing any blame !!!

FannyCornforth Sun 23-Jan-22 10:33:22

Ooh, why Annie?
Do tell!

Anniebach Sun 23-Jan-22 10:31:19

Lucca no, not St. Charles , but to have the grandmother he had he certainly has my sympathy.

Lucca Sun 23-Jan-22 10:27:14

Still not.

Anniebach Sun 23-Jan-22 10:27:01

Kate1949 I just don’t understand why you find Diana’s affairs
acceptable, what of the wives of the men she had affairs with ?

Lucca Sun 23-Jan-22 10:26:55

Still. It answering the question Anniebach! Saint Charles is it ?

MissAdventure Sun 23-Jan-22 10:24:04

Long before any of the interviews or tapes, Diana was like a breath of fresh air blowing through the cobwebs of "the firm".

Kate1949 Sun 23-Jan-22 10:20:39

Oh yes, Charles should take some blame. I never think Saint Diana. I didn't know her, only what we see and hear. As MissA says Diana was the only Royal to exhibit normal behaviour. Personally I can't stand (what I know of) Charles.

Sally73 Sun 23-Jan-22 10:20:29

Rosina and Fanny - delightfully and pleasantly sorted smile flowers

Anniebach Sun 23-Jan-22 10:15:55

We know more about Diana because of her book, tape recordings and panorama interview.

MissAdventure Sun 23-Jan-22 10:13:06

For me, it was the fact that Diana wasn't a saint which made her interesting.
She was the first royal I'd seen to exhibit normal behaviour.

Lucca Sun 23-Jan-22 10:09:55

Kate1949

If Diana only had affairs after she was treated so badly, then I don't blame her. If before, then that's a different story. We don't know the truth.

Indeed we don’t Nor about Charles or any of them to be honest !

Lucca Sun 23-Jan-22 10:08:35

I was asking if you give any blame to Charles as you do to Diana ? As you were talking about “all sides”

I don’t say Diana was a saint, ever,

Kate1949 Sun 23-Jan-22 10:07:40

If Diana only had affairs after she was treated so badly, then I don't blame her. If before, then that's a different story. We don't know the truth.

Anniebach Sun 23-Jan-22 09:59:14

Lucca i do feel sorry for Charles, as I do for Diana, it’s the
Diana was a saint that I think is unfair. But I am not one of the
‘All 19 year olds are victims brigade’.

Lucca Sun 23-Jan-22 09:54:16

Anniebach

So Camilla who was married to a philanderer had an affair and is the baddie. Diana had several affairs because she was hurt and this is understandable.

Why can’t some view this tragedy from all sides ?

But do you give any blame to Charles at all ?

FannyCornforth Sun 23-Jan-22 09:53:59

Rosina No you weren’t! ?
(Thanks for getting back to me smile)

Rosina Sun 23-Jan-22 09:50:01

FannyCornforth and I was being a touchy pedantic old baggage. blush

Anniebach Sun 23-Jan-22 09:38:16

Dickens Camilla wasn’t a divorced woman until 1995 .

The virgin bride is rubbish, do you believe all the girls he dated
were virgins ? They didn’t want to marry him, the media hounded them.

lemsip Sun 23-Jan-22 09:20:22

Such ancient history this Diana stuff. Strange people still go on about it.

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not ancient history to william and harry though

Dickens Sun 23-Jan-22 09:08:52

Anniebach

So Camilla who was married to a philanderer had an affair and is the baddie. Diana had several affairs because she was hurt and this is understandable.

Why can’t some view this tragedy from all sides ?

The tragedy is the misogynistic and hypocritical attitude towards women that underpins the Monarchy.

The heir can play the field in his youth but must choose an untarnished virgin for his bride.

Because of the intrusiveness of the media, Charles and Diana spent very little time alone getting to know each other in the way that 'normal' people do. The tragedy began right there.

The pressure was on him to settle down and produce an heir. The parenting skills of his father left a lot to be desired - Philip communicated his feelings about the relationship via a memo to Charles - "either marry her or let her go".

Charles' upbringing is a study on its own, and much has been written about it.

He should have been allowed to marry Camilla instead of Diana. But the attitude towards divorced women doesn't allow that because they are 'tainted'. That's the real tragedy.

If you look at the history of the Monarchy - it's mostly the women who fare badly under the institution.

I'm not a Monarchist anyway - but I do feel sorry for the women... Camilla, Diana - and Kate, who is under enormous pressure to maintain her goddess-like image. Fortunately the Queen has been well-trained from early womanhood to fulfil her role, understands her duties and is unlikely to ever put a foot in the wrong direction..

nanna8 Sun 23-Jan-22 08:21:43

Such ancient history this Diana stuff. Strange people still go on about it.

Anniebach Sun 23-Jan-22 08:06:01

So Camilla who was married to a philanderer had an affair and is the baddie. Diana had several affairs because she was hurt and this is understandable.

Why can’t some view this tragedy from all sides ?