Im going to put it out there - I have the upmost sympathy for Prince Harry.

No it is not prejudice.
It is the possible content of his book, described as a 'bombshell,' which causes me concern. My opinion is based on his behaviour towards his family since leaving Britain and the comments he has made about them in public.

Peasblossom

He didn’t raise it.

He didn’t have anything to do with the match, other than turning up. His appearance did encourage presence encouraged other wealthy ‘on the circuit’ people so the charity was grateful for that. He was repaid by a positive publicity shoot.

Quid pro quo I suppose.

The thing is to begin with they thought he cared. That he was with them.

I think it’s sad.

It's the main fundraiser for Sentebale. He started Sentebale. He went to the main fundraiser.
What did you expect him to do at the event Peasblossom?
Why is it sad? Because he expects a charity he started to carry on running without him?
Do you imagine Charles organises all the Prince's Trust events?
It seems a great pity that your antagonism to Harry should cause you to rubbish a charity which is still doing great work.

eazybee

eazybee
I would hope any charity would refuse a donation that came from 'Prince Harry's bombshell book', but I doubt they will.

So you would rather people in Africa suffered, just because you are prejudiced!
What exactly do you mean by that comment, Trisher?

Well eazybee Sentebale would get money, it deals with people in Africa. Less money, less help-people suffer. You don't like Harry so you think no charity should benefit from his book- that's prejudice.

eazybee
I would hope any charity would refuse a donation that came from 'Prince Harry's bombshell book', but I doubt they will.

So you would rather people in Africa suffered, just because you are prejudiced!
What exactly do you mean by that comment, Trisher?

Either Harry or Meghan is Harry's worst enemy. I suspect the latter.

I meant if I my son's behaviour made me worry about his mental health I would do all I could to persuade him to
seek help. Harry needs help as others have said , and out
of the public eye but he chooses to stay very visible and vocal
so maybe he's playing it .

Apparently they discussed moving to New Zealand with the governor general when they visited there. Maybe they just went round all the countries saying they'd like to move there?

I remember them saying they might move to South Africa. I suppose nowhere near as glitzy as the US though.

Harry's heart might be in the right place, but why then is there such a massive gulf between what he preaches and what he does? The private jet should concern and irritate us because only a few months earlier when he launched his eco-travel initiative Travelyst, he defended his actions saying that "99 per cent" of the time he took commercial flights, however he occasionally used private jets to "ensure my family are safe". Well none of his family accompanied him to that polo match, so why the private jet? Once again his words are far from the truth he would have everyone believe.

I would like trisherto name the sex offenders in the royal family

got a bit muddled there….

He didn’t raise it.

He didn’t have anything to do with the match, other than turning up. His appearance did encourage presence encouraged other wealthy ‘on the circuit’ people so the charity was grateful for that. He was repaid by a positive publicity shoot.

Quid pro quo I suppose.

The thing is to begin with they thought he cared. That he was with them.

I think it’s sad.

Peasblossom

Yup, that was his decision to put his own life first.

I still think continuing to take an interest in the charity he co-founded would have been a good thing, for him and the charity.

Perhaps given him some purpose and satisfaction. He was valued there.

Check out the Archewell site for all the things he is now involved in Peasblossom Things change people move on. Although perhaps raising $2million at a polo match actually helped as well

Yup, that was his decision to put his own life first.

I still think continuing to take an interest in the charity he co-founded would have been a good thing, for him and the charity.

Perhaps given him some purpose and satisfaction. He was valued there.

Sorry but you said I suppose I feel indignant about it because my contacts are in Africa. They were so excited when the charity was set up and with Harry’s very involved, personal approach.
Well to my mind a personal approach necessitates personal contact. But if that wasn't what you meant I apologise.

I think questioning my asking how your friends in Africa knew the precise details of what went on in Colarado is no more unreasonable than your assertion that I depended on dodgy media sources for my information. I judged by the photographs and what I know about celebrity visits, that they are very organised and formal.
Harry handed over the running of Sentebale some time ago. I think given his new family commitments, the global pandemic and his joint project with Meghan- Archewell he could be forgiven for not being constantly in touch

You mean like the poster who said nobody knows what goes on and then talked about what she thought goes on.

Or saying you can’t trust the media and then pointing out publications that support your own view.

Chip, chop.?

Hear, hear trisher. Chopped logic to praise one dodgy side of the family while castigating the other side.

trisha.

trusha there was no criticism of his failure to visit Africa. None at all. You are making that up to suit your own agenda.

Nobody would think a visit to Africa was wise in the past two years. However as many of us know it is easy now to maintain contact anywhere in the world.

Even in Africa. It’s hard to believe that in the 21st Century you could make a comment like how did people in Africa know2hat was going on in Colorado. Seriously?

I expect it came through on the jungle drums??????

maddyone it's a bit disingenuous to criticise those having republican views and slate them for "maligning" the RF because we want to get rid of them and then complain about my saying if you support a bunch of racist,sex offenders, liars and cheats you look like an idiot. My republican views have absolutely nothing to do with how they behave. Even if you do consider the monarchy to be essential can you really approve of this lot?
Prince Philip was racist
Prince Andrew is a sex offender and lied
Charles lied and cheated and is embroiled in a cash for honours debacle.
To have one miscreant in a family might be forgiven to have so many looks like a pattern.
How on earth that ties in with labelling Harry as the bad one I don't understand. If the family is toxic leaving it is absolutely the right thing to do. Telling other people about it is quite understandable and may help recovery.
And sorry supporting this lot does make anyone (and not particularly you) look like an idiot to me. They may not be an idiot but they certainly look like one.

over and over and over again..... repetative comments ......

at least harry and andrew keep gransnet going as there doesn't seem to be much else.

I could also write reams about my dislike of the HofLs, honours in general, and the way royals are treated a bit like Demi Gods, but this thread is about Harry, so best to restrict it to that.

That’s a bit rude isn’t it trisher? Well actually I have come to the conclusion, after years of sitting on the fence, that despite the disadvantages of a republic, that on balance, it really is the way to go. I think the royal family are outdated and undemocratic, and not ideal as we move into the future.
However, I can spot bad behaviour when I see it, and this most certainly includes Prince Andrew, who I think is a despicable human being. I’m very concerned about the cash for honours story that’s in the news at the moment, and it is my opinion that the Queen should have retired years ago like other people do. None of this though, excuses Harry’s behaviour in my opinion.
Incidentally, I would appreciate it if you don’t say I look like an idiot because I most certainly am not, and I think it rather rude.

maddyone

I thought that posters were saying that Harry has mental health issues, not the rest of his family.

Perhaps I have a different view, but I don’t think Harry was treated appallingly by his family. I don’t think there’s much evidence of that but there is rather a lot of evidence of how Harry was indulged by his family.

It seems to me that those posters who are unquestionably supportive of Harry’s actions are the very same posters who have often said they would prefer a republic. If that is the case, then of course the royal family will be maligned because in order to dispose of it, it must be seen as guilty. Therefore also, a member of the family who criticises it would be welcomed wholeheartedly as that person provides ‘evidence’ of its dreadful toxicity.

And if you support a monarchy that family has to be seen as special and faultless otherwise you look a bit of an idiot for supporting a bunch of sex offenders, racists, liars and cheats.

True Maddyone - my enemy’s enemy....etc