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Do we need the monarchy in this day and and age?

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maddyone Wed 23-Feb-22 11:48:54

Okay, it was suggested on a different thread that a new thread should be started about this, so here goes.
So do we need a monarchy today? That’s it really.

trisher Thu 03-Mar-22 09:59:10

Also perhaps because the full title was the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, not the Soviet Union.

trisher Thu 03-Mar-22 09:56:16

vegansrock

trisher “Nothing to do with ignorance everything to do with having a sense of humour.“
Shows a very weak sense of humour calling Russia the non existent Soviet Union . Not sure why that is considered funny.

Perhaps those of us who have been called communists and who remember all the comments about Corbyn are just sharing "in" jokes. If you don't get it, you don't get it.
Still nothing to do with ignorance.

vegansrock Thu 03-Mar-22 06:01:33

trisher “Nothing to do with ignorance everything to do with having a sense of humour.“
Shows a very weak sense of humour calling Russia the non existent Soviet Union . Not sure why that is considered funny.

trisher Wed 02-Mar-22 20:38:23

vegansrock

A lot of people on here showing their ignorance - there is NO Soviet Union any longer , Russians are NOT “the Soviets”, Russia is NOT ruled by the Communist Party, so no one can “ hand us over to the soviets”- they don’t exist!!

Nothing to do with ignorance everything to do with having a sense of humour.

nadateturbe Wed 02-Mar-22 07:23:17

Mollygo

But you still go on N. Read the nurse, I was simply putting an example on that you might find easier to understand.

I fail to see how an irrelevant example would help explain something. That would just confuse my little brain further.

Perhaps you could answer Petera whose comments you conveniently ignored.

vegansrock Wed 02-Mar-22 02:25:32

A lot of people on here showing their ignorance - there is NO Soviet Union any longer , Russians are NOT “the Soviets”, Russia is NOT ruled by the Communist Party, so no one can “ hand us over to the soviets”- they don’t exist!!

Petera Tue 01-Mar-22 16:38:36

volver

So let me think...

We could choose a head of state that leads his people from the front in a struggle against autocracy, or we could have a head of state that has someone else to break in her shoes for her in case her feet get sore.

No conferring. I'm going to have to hurry you...

volver Tue 01-Mar-22 16:28:49

So let me think...

We could choose a head of state that leads his people from the front in a struggle against autocracy, or we could have a head of state that has someone else to break in her shoes for her in case her feet get sore.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 01-Mar-22 16:25:19

Or Putin.

Testjoin Tue 01-Mar-22 15:38:31

All of the posters saying that they don't want an elected president because we might end up with Boris or Trump.

We might end up with Zelinskyy.

Petera Tue 01-Mar-22 15:19:58

Callistemon21

So can we believe some of what he says, then Petera?

Which bits?

Of course he knew - Cummings kept him up-to-date as he knew what was going on in Russia.

Well for example this morning he said

This whole misadventure by Vladimir Putin has raised questions about the security of Europe and what we do.

But I'm having trouble understanding what you’re getting at. Even Pinocchio told the truth sometimes.

trisher Tue 01-Mar-22 15:18:14

Callistemon21

ps it could be part of a cunning plan - Cummings see himself as the future President of the Soviet satellite state of the Disunited Kingdom.

Now I'm confused! I thought it was Corbyn who was going to hand us over to the Soviets confused. Is nothing and no one what they seem to be now? H-e-l-p

Callistemon21 Tue 01-Mar-22 14:50:54

ps it could be part of a cunning plan - Cummings see himself as the future President of the Soviet satellite state of the Disunited Kingdom.

Callistemon21 Tue 01-Mar-22 14:49:23

So can we believe some of what he says, then Petera?

Which bits?

Of course he knew - Cummings kept him up-to-date as he knew what was going on in Russia.

Petera Tue 01-Mar-22 13:32:27

Germanshepherdsmum

Not sure you’ll find any Johnson supporters here Petera. Conservatives yes, but not Johnson supporters.

There are one or two, but I believe you're broadly correct.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 01-Mar-22 13:11:32

Not sure you’ll find any Johnson supporters here Petera. Conservatives yes, but not Johnson supporters.

Petera Tue 01-Mar-22 12:42:51

Callistemon21

DaisyAnne

Germanshepherdsmum

I have no doubt that HM has been in touch with the Ukrainian PM Grany.
This isn’t a war in Europe btw. And the UK is only involved via its membership of NATO. It would not be appropriate for the Queen to make a public statement - it would only serve to provoke Putin further.

I'm not sure why you say this isn't a war in Europe. Before it started even Johnson said Russia was planning "the biggest war in Europe since 1945".

But we keep being told on GN that everything he says is a lie, DaisyAnne

No we keep being told, correctly, that he tells a lot of lies. Would any of his supporters care to deny that?

It would make life easy to have Johnson as a bellwether and just automatically believe the opposite of everything he says.

Unfortunately life’s not that easy, which is why – even on GN – when people say that Johnson has lied, they mostly give evidence.

Callistemon21 Tue 01-Mar-22 12:36:35

DaisyAnne

Germanshepherdsmum

I have no doubt that HM has been in touch with the Ukrainian PM Grany.
This isn’t a war in Europe btw. And the UK is only involved via its membership of NATO. It would not be appropriate for the Queen to make a public statement - it would only serve to provoke Putin further.

I'm not sure why you say this isn't a war in Europe. Before it started even Johnson said Russia was planning "the biggest war in Europe since 1945".

But we keep being told on GN that everything he says is a lie, DaisyAnne

Luckygirl3 Tue 01-Mar-22 12:36:19

Germanshepherdsmum

So you believe Johnson? That has to be a first.

I am not sure how you came to that conclusion! How could anyone support Johnson let alone "believe in" him, whatever that means?

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 01-Mar-22 12:17:53

So you believe Johnson? That has to be a first.

Luckygirl3 Tue 01-Mar-22 11:59:02

We do not really need a monarchy - but what to replace it with? I look at countries with presidents and think we could do worse.

DaisyAnne Tue 01-Mar-22 11:56:00

Germanshepherdsmum

I have no doubt that HM has been in touch with the Ukrainian PM Grany.
This isn’t a war in Europe btw. And the UK is only involved via its membership of NATO. It would not be appropriate for the Queen to make a public statement - it would only serve to provoke Putin further.

I'm not sure why you say this isn't a war in Europe. Before it started even Johnson said Russia was planning "the biggest war in Europe since 1945".

Petera Tue 01-Mar-22 11:38:15

It dosn't really matter where the war is, but this is more-or -less the standard defintion of Europe:

a continent of the northern hemisphere, separated from Africa to the south by the Mediterranean Sea and from Asia to the east roughly by the Bosporus, the Caucasus Mountains, and the Ural Mountains. Europe contains approximately 20 per cent of the world's population.

So actually containing large parts of Western Russia. There has never been any doubt that Ukraine is part of Eastern Europe.

trisher Tue 01-Mar-22 11:33:19

This isn’t a war in Europe btw. And the UK is only involved via its membership of NATO.
No doubt much the same reasoning was used when the Germans annexed part of Czeckoslovakia. Of course they then marched into Poland and guess what ??? It was a war in Europe after all!

Grany Tue 01-Mar-22 10:34:09

Grany

Prince Michael of Kent accused of selling Kremlin access

May 2021: THERE MUST BE AN INVESTIGATION !

( reader, there was no investigation)
( reader, royal family members don't get investigated)
(reader that's because of idiotic deference)
(reader, they are a weapon against us)
(reader Retweet )

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57042823

This needs to be investigated