Do we need the monarchy in this day and and age?

volver

Germanshepherdsmum

Constant bloody elections.

Oh I know. All this democracy business is just over rated, isn't it?

Bl**dy suffragettes, should have stayed at home.

I bet they were fighting for the right to vote in two elections!
The local one and the general election.

Now we have town, county, devolved parliament, police and crime commissioners, mayors, MPs, referenda

I wouldn't mind voting for an upper House though

#Notanotherone

Funny. That’s just what I was going to say?

Peasblossom

Hmm. Are you Ok with the extent of David Attenborough’s personal wealth? Earned and inherited.

I think he’s a hypocrite spouting about Climate change and conservation and then carting himself, film crews and all the supporting entourage around the world, creating a mass of pollution and disturbing environments in order to accumulate even more millions for himself.

Just the kind of mentality for a President.

I don't care how rich he is.

I don't care how rich Queen Elizabeth is.

But given you think that David Attenborough is a hypocrite I guess I now know what I'm up against, in terms of my interlocutors having a grasp on reality.

www.itv.com/news/2022-02-23/michael-gove-ashamed-of-poor-social-housing-conditions-exposed-by-itv-news

Lets just say I find it hard to worry about the state of the RF's many houses when people in the country are living like this.

Hmm. Are you Ok with the extent of David Attenborough’s personal wealth? Earned and inherited.

I think he’s a hypocrite spouting about Climate change and conservation and then carting himself, film crews and all the supporting entourage around the world, creating a mass of pollution and disturbing environments in order to accumulate even more millions for himself.

Just the kind of mentality for a President.

Have you ever visited these old relics ? Only parts of them can be lived in.

It is funny how some people regard the prospect of electing a head of state as something to be dreaded, but then I suppose there have always been those who questioned and opposed every step that was taken towards democracy. Slaves who thought it was OK to be owned by someone because some owners were benevolent, serfs who thought the feudal system was OK, those who thought only certain people should have the vote because others, because of their sex, education or social position were unfit to choose. It is incredible that we still have someone as Head of State who just happens to inherit the role. By all means have a monarchy if you must but let's make it purely decorative. Let's withdraw from it any involvement in law making, Parliament, international relations or any other process which matters to the people of this country. If they want they can continue with their charitable work, but my guess is they wouldn't do so. Because although we may profess that the monarch doesn't have any part in the legislative process there is evidence that even the Queen (she who is above suspicion) has used her influence to change laws to suit the RF. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/08/royals-vetted-more-than-1000-laws-via-queens-consent
It's time we had a proper elected H of S who could ensure that the unwritten constitution was protected and who we could kick out if they started using their position to feather their family nest.

Germanshepherdsmum

Constant bloody elections.

Oh I know. All this democracy business is just over rated, isn't it?

Bl**dy suffragettes, should have stayed at home.

Its getting really weird now...

Buckingham Palace is basically just a slum, thank god the RF agree to live there so the rest of us don't have to.

Would folks want to be moved from the areas they live in to live in flats that have been converted from ancient buildings with antiquated facilities in the middle of nowhere?

Callistemon21

^Some might think it's not the best institution we have^

But, with all the perceived faults, it is better than any alternative suggested so far (which is nebulous to say the least as no-one can suggest any person who would be suitable).

I literally named 2, but I guess you didn't like them.

Anyway, its clear on here that the propaganda is working still.

The only person who spoke any sense in the pandemic was the Queen? Not Chris Whitty, Van Tam, Prof Gilbert...?

The Queen wanted to work despite having Covid? What kind of example is that? The rest of us are told to take it easy and recover, not battle through it.

Remove their titles? They can call themselves what they like, we're not advocating beheading. We're advocating a modern democracy.

We've done it this way since 1066? Time for a change then. We used to have slavery and bear baiting, but we realise that probably those weren't good things, all in all. Incidentally it was 700 and something, not 1066.

But never mind, President Trump, eh? "Trumps" all other arguments, eh?

Oh I see, senators. It’s all political nominations.

The current President Michael D Higgins doesn’t seem to be doing very well.

Germanshepherdsmum

Constant bloody elections.

We are lucky some people are not allowed to vote or have their vote overran.

Who nominates candidates for the Irish Presidency Farzanah?

Farzanah

What’s wrong with the Irish system where the President is nominated and then chosen by proportional representation, to put it simply?

Oh, not the Irish President again!!
???

Constant bloody elections.

What’s wrong with the Irish system where the President is nominated and then chosen by proportional representation, to put it simply?

Too right Callistemon.

Germanshepherdsmum

That was to Jaxie.

I think there is a lot of ignorance regarding finances generally.

That was to collette

Some might think it's not the best institution we have

But, with all the perceived faults, it is better than any alternative suggested so far (which is nebulous to say the least as no-one can suggest any person who would be suitable).

That was to Jaxie.

Don’t be ridiculous.

Yes. I think it is important to keep the monarchy. Obviously it evolves with time and is an important part of our way of life. I don’t think they see themselves as superior or more important, just doing an important job.The Queen signed her recent letter “your servant” and has earned respect over her 70 years. I can think of people who would like to fill the space if the monarchy were abolished and that is something to worry about! And would cost more!
Many people who don’t know the Queen and have never met her call her a rubbish mother all the time. I wonder how many of these people have children themselves who are not as they hoped, won’t speak to them,etc, etc.Are they bad parents or have things just gone wrong, as they do sometimes. At least their problems can remain private.
The only person to speak any sense during the pandemic was the Queen. It will be a great upheaval for all of us when she dies and of course there will be changes as the world changes, but abolish NO!