Vagina Museum

Yes Galaxy, I should have made that clear. I could name three top professional women I know with public profiles who struggled to escape abuse

Thanks for the get well messages. Being off my feet it meaning too much time here
Off to read a murder mystery, not too challenging

Especially if they are escaping an abusive man.

Middle class women are single parents as well. They also feel lonely, hard up, looked down on, isolated and excluded. Adding class consciousness to clear dislike and disapproval of JKR’s lifestyle, success and support for women takes it to another level.
What price the sisterhood ?

Callistemon21

^I'm not at all bitter I simply like people to be honest about their origins and not try to pretend they are something they're not.^
In what way?
Her early life, school etc as she tells it is well-documented, if some have exaggerated or misunderstood that is what happens.

She has never said that she led a poverty-stricken, deprived childhood.

Maybe I just knew too many single mums who hadn't the support she had and I didn't like the way she was presented. Maybe it isn't her fault. But she still pinched The Worst Witch and made more than Jill Murphy ever did. The fact that Murphy died last year probably brought it home again. I 'd started just to ignore JK but that brought it back.

"A eally beautiful moment to celebrate how the medical community can create a vagina for someone in the same way they can build or rebuild any other missing or lost appendage."

Violetsky, ate you at all aware that the majority of yranswomen these days don't bother to 'create a vagina'?' as you put it.
They nearly all keep their penises.
They take hormones to mimic breast and soft skin, but they most definitely hang on to their male appendages.
Therefore they are most definitely not women.
They are Transwomen
Thinking you are a woman doesn't make you a woman.
It's not to say they shouldn't be treated with respect and kindness but the level of ignorance surrounding this is astounding.
I suggest you study up on your biology.

Mollygo

I do admit to an absolute bias because JK Rowling pinched a lot of stuff from The Worst Witch which was about a GIRL witch and made it all about a BOY witch. I loved The Worst Witch and all Jill Murphy's books. Now that is really funny, well done trisher.

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Get well soon, Iam. The Seven Basic Plots by Christopher Booker is a really good read, but it is very thick, so not for the easily daunted . His examples are relevant and still up to date, unlike the earlier texts I mentioned which were written a while ago. Actually, it's perfect recuperation reading. If you can send Mr Iam out to get hold of a copy it might take your mind off your woes. I think most libraries will stock it.

Molly - well spotted! It's a pain when people of one sex are transmogrified into the other to the detriment of women and girls, isn't it?

Mollygo

I do admit to an absolute bias because JK Rowling pinched a lot of stuff from The Worst Witch which was about a GIRL witch and made it all about a BOY witch. I loved The Worst Witch and all Jill Murphy's books. Now that is really funny, well done trisher.

I thought I'd read The Worst Witch again with youngest DGD but even the sellotape which held it together had given up!

ps I hope you feel better soon Iam64

Iam64

Doodledog, I read your post which was much clearer and well constructed than mine. My excuse, I’m in bed, taking antibiotics though I can garble even when on top form. I’m curious about the 7 archetypes. A favourite is the orphan hero, which Harry Potter fits beautifully

If only Dickens had thought of a broomstick!
Oliver Twist could have been even more popular.

I'm not at all bitter I simply like people to be honest about their origins and not try to pretend they are something they're not.
In what way?
Her early life, school etc as she tells it is well-documented, if some have exaggerated or misunderstood that is what happens.

She has never said that she led a poverty-stricken, deprived childhood.

Crikey goosebumps were awful in my view, than goodness JKR saved him from that doodle.

Sorry that you're unwell Iam, antibiotics can make you feel pretty awful. Hope you feel better soon.

I do admit to an absolute bias because JK Rowling pinched a lot of stuff from The Worst Witch which was about a GIRL witch and made it all about a BOY witch. I loved The Worst Witch and all Jill Murphy's books. Now that is really funny, well done trisher.

I do admit to an absolute bias because JK Rowling pinched a lot of stuff from The Worst Witch which was about a GIRL witch and made it all about a BOY witch. I loved The Worst Witch and all Jill Murphy's books.
Yes, we loved The Worst Witch too, in fact I've just had to throw one book out because it fell to pieces from much reading.

I do acknowledge that there are a lot of similarities but somehow the HP books seemed to catch the imagination of so many, including adults although I admit that I've never read one myself.

Callistemon21

It's shocking, isn't it, that a single mother on benefits should linger in a warm cafe over a cup of coffee.
She should sit shivering at home because she can't afford to put the heating on.

Well most of the ones I knew did. Alternatively they bunged their child in a pram and walked miles to the nearest mother and baby group where they were often viewed with disdain by the middle class married mums.
I'm not at all bitter I simply like people to be honest about their origins and not try to pretend they are something they're not.
I do admit to an absolute bias because JK Rowling pinched a lot of stuff from The Worst Witch which was about a GIRL witch and made it all about a BOY witch. I loved The Worst Witch and all Jill Murphy's books.

Doodledog, I read your post which was much clearer and well constructed than mine. My excuse, I’m in bed, taking antibiotics though I can garble even when on top form. I’m curious about the 7 archetypes. A favourite is the orphan hero, which Harry Potter fits beautifully

Sorry, Iam. I plagiarised your comment about the seven archetypes there.

If I had no money but wanted to work in a cafe (as many writers do), and I had a family member who would sub me a cup of coffee, of course I would go there - who wouldn't? I fail to see how that casts doubt on her poverty - if anything, it adds to the veracity of her story, although why anyone would try to pick holes in the truth of someone else's experience is beyond me.

As for her writing skills, all I know is that she weaned my son off 'Goosebumps' and 'Horrible Histories', and my remembrance of the writing is that it was far better than the Enid Blyton books that I read in childhood. Children like stories and plots, and if they learn to enjoy those first, they can move on to more complex literary devices later.

Also, there is a lot of research that shows that all stories are variations on seven main ones (read Christopher Booker, Bruno Bettelheim or Marina Warner for a full exploration), so in 7 (?) lengthy story books it is inevitable that there will be some repetition of these storylines.

It's hard to believe that the number of people who vilify JKR are doing so out of a considered analysis of her writing, and not because they disagree with her belief that sex and gender are different things.

Galaxy

Oh my goodness JKR Twitter is just a joy to behold at the moment. She is like a bloody lion. I wonder if she knows how much she is appreciated.

Couldn’t agree more. She is wonderful.

Sorry I should know your name by now trisher.

It’s often said there are 7types of story archetypes. The Potter stories are similar to many because the archetypes are used by many authors. If we are looking at literature for youngsters, I’d at the Pullman trilogy is ‘better’ than the Rowling Potter stories. The difference is that Rowling captured children’s imagination so well.
I can’t fibs it’s in my heart to be critical, she had a marriage that failed, she experienced it as abusive, if her brother in law let her drink coffee and write in his cafe, that in no way detracts from her determination to succeed

It's shocking, isn't it, that a single mother on benefits should linger in a warm cafe over a cup of coffee.
She should sit shivering at home because she can't afford to put the heating on.

The idea that a single mother on benefits could even afford one cup of coffee in a cafe puzzled me-

You’ll be complaining about unemployed people having flat-screen tv’s and mobile phones, next.

Oh dear, trisher
That was a bit personal about J K Rowling - she is still a person even if you don't agree with her.
Yes, I do know something about her early life but not much about her circumstances after she left an abusive marriage.
I think she must have courage and strength of character to have done that.