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Beautiful memorial service for Prince Philip

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snowberryZ Tue 29-Mar-22 17:29:17

Just that really.
I thought the Queen looked amazing, considering the time she's had. She looked so dignified as well.
I sort of agree with PA helping her in. After all, he is her son and it's a memorial service for his father.
Also it's a way of showing certain absent members that 'this is what loyalty' in a family looks like.

The children were beautifully behaved and doesn't Princess Charlotte have a look of the Queen about her?shock

It does seem a bit sad that Harry wasnt there.
If this was any ordinary family I suppose we would be saying he has gone No Contact with Prince Charles and that he and the Queen are estrangedparents/grandparents!
Seems a bit cruel to do that to an old lady, in what could be one of her last public engagements.
But that is my opinion.
I'm sure the PH fanclub will be along in a minute to disagree. hmm

Other than that, it was a lovely service.

Mollygo Thu 31-Mar-22 12:42:52

No one has to buy into anything. We can continue on our usual GN way, making the usual snidey comments, which ever side we're on. The subject(s) of the comments will neither know nor care, but it gives us something to do.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 31-Mar-22 12:33:43

PECS

Err..no! A Head of State, on a major State occasion, made a choice to have a recently shamed Duke accompany her in a very high profile way.

If it had been a private family memorial she can do what she likes but as a Queen whose children have to to bow or curtsey to her I don't buy the poor mummy story!

Yes

Anniebach Thu 31-Mar-22 12:28:29

True Lucca

Lucca Thu 31-Mar-22 12:26:52

Plus the OP had plenty to say about harry and Andrew etc !

PECS Thu 31-Mar-22 12:23:56

There is not much else to say if those of us ,who felt it was not entirely 'A Beautiful Memorial Service For Prince Philip' , are not allowed to voice our opinion! confused

Lucca Thu 31-Mar-22 12:20:49

But the role of Andrew was clearly an issue in the memorial service whether you are for or against. Or is this a thread where there are rules of what can be said ?

Lucca Thu 31-Mar-22 12:19:18

Sorry my post to eazybee

Lucca Thu 31-Mar-22 12:18:38

Or criticisms of Harry ?

Anniebach Thu 31-Mar-22 12:18:30

It isn’t important, it’s just more for republicans to feast on ,
Andrew should have done a Corbyn ‘ I was there but I don’t
know if I was involved’ at wreath laying ceremony

eazybee Thu 31-Mar-22 12:17:07

The title of this thread is *Beautiful Memorial Service for
Prince Philip.*
Better to start a new thread if you wish to discuss, yet again, allegations about Prince Andrew.

FannyCornforth Thu 31-Mar-22 11:13:37

Lemsip actually it hasn’t.
This is an all new Royal Family topic; and a very important one, at that

lemsip Thu 31-Mar-22 11:10:07

..................................Oh for goodness sake Give it a Rest everyone
so repetative..all been said over and ove

volver Thu 31-Mar-22 10:48:15

This ^

I'm not a mother so I take that as carte blanche to condemn anybody I see fit. smile

PECS Thu 31-Mar-22 10:44:11

Err..no! A Head of State, on a major State occasion, made a choice to have a recently shamed Duke accompany her in a very high profile way.

If it had been a private family memorial she can do what she likes but as a Queen whose children have to to bow or curtsey to her I don't buy the poor mummy story!

Anniebach Thu 31-Mar-22 10:25:06

Yes Mollygo disgraceful that mothers condemn a mother for
being seen publicly with her son at a memorial service for a husband and father.

Mollygo Thu 31-Mar-22 10:11:17

It’s disgraceful!
Really a mother should do as she’s told and accept the person designated rather than her own choice of a family member whoever we are or whatever the occasion.
I’m sure that if and when we get to that age, we will willingly relinquish any decision making to other people.
After all at nearly 100, women’s minds aren’t as sharp as they once were, are they?

volver Thu 31-Mar-22 09:57:09

It was obviously the Queen’s decision. She’s still the boss. She calls the shots.

Ain't that the truth.

merlotgran Thu 31-Mar-22 09:55:15

My take on it, for what it’s worth, is that the Queen wanted Andrew to escort her because, regardless of what Charles and William felt should be done, she needed to feel safe walking into the Abbey.

I don’t believe the theory that the Dean of Westminster was supposed to take her to her seat. Since when has anyone but a close family member been allowed to touch the Queen? It might sound daft but it has always been that way.

If Charles was so concerned that Andrew would muscle in he could have stepped forward after Camilla had sat down.

It was obviously the Queen’s decision. She’s still the boss. She calls the shots.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 31-Mar-22 09:52:31

Secondly why should Prince Andrew be made to sit at the back, he is The Queen and Prince Philip’s second son.

He hasn’t been found guilty, yes he paid a settlement to a USA Court. The legal system in the U.K. is completely different to that of the U.K.

I am not defending him as a sexual predator, as the truth will probably never be known, I am defending his right to morn his Father sitting along with the rest of his family.

volver Thu 31-Mar-22 09:52:24

He didn't have to escort her.

There's plenty people in that family, I'm sure they could have found somebody else. He could have come in the side entrance on his own, early in proceedings, and sat down quietly.

Then we would have had a TV picture of him and the presenter would have said there's the Duke of York, discreetly attending his father's memorial service.

Callistemon21 Thu 31-Mar-22 09:51:14

Jody1234

Oh yes, thank you so much Callistemon21, that's the one. Don't they look lovely together. How beautiful the Queen is.

And the Duke in his RN uniform ?

GrannyGravy13 Thu 31-Mar-22 09:49:02

volver for Prince Andrew to sit at the back after escorting The Queen it would have meant him walking the length of The Abbey.

volver Thu 31-Mar-22 09:46:57

It’s the media who have blown him being there out of all proportion, he was at his fathers memorial service, other than coming in a disguise/full face mask what could he have done, other than not attend, with all the media storm that would also have created?

Sat at the back?

GrannyGravy13 Thu 31-Mar-22 09:45:14

I watched the service, Prince Andrew escorted his mother from the side entrance of the Abbey to the row where her seat was, and escorted her out the same way.

He didn’t walk the length of the Abbey as the other Royals, he didn’t meet, greet, shake hands with anyone. In fact it was all very discreet.

It’s the media who have blown him being there out of all proportion, he was at his fathers memorial service, other than coming in a disguise/full face mask what could he have done, other than not attend, with all the media storm that would also have created?

Grany Thu 31-Mar-22 09:38:22

Queen's decision Andrew take centre stage

Where does this weird idea come from that the Queen has put duty and country first? She’s defended her position, status and wealth and that of her family at every opportunity, regardless of the cost to the nation. What duty has she served in return?

Unaccountable above the law secretive