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Beautiful memorial service for Prince Philip

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snowberryZ Tue 29-Mar-22 17:29:17

Just that really.
I thought the Queen looked amazing, considering the time she's had. She looked so dignified as well.
I sort of agree with PA helping her in. After all, he is her son and it's a memorial service for his father.
Also it's a way of showing certain absent members that 'this is what loyalty' in a family looks like.

The children were beautifully behaved and doesn't Princess Charlotte have a look of the Queen about her?shock

It does seem a bit sad that Harry wasnt there.
If this was any ordinary family I suppose we would be saying he has gone No Contact with Prince Charles and that he and the Queen are estrangedparents/grandparents!
Seems a bit cruel to do that to an old lady, in what could be one of her last public engagements.
But that is my opinion.
I'm sure the PH fanclub will be along in a minute to disagree. hmm

Other than that, it was a lovely service.

Anniebach Fri 01-Apr-22 18:32:28

Gilly you know how long every engagement takes ? Do tell,
how long to meet someone starting a business through
The Prince’s Trust, to visit a farming area, meeting a head of
state, attending the opening of The Senydd ?

Callistemon21 Fri 01-Apr-22 18:14:58

Gilly3

Grany's maths is correct, it is 521 engagements for PC. Mind you an hour would be long enough for me with him.

So can you imagine what it must be like for him spending so much time talking to so many people - some must be inspiring but some will be tedious and boring (or even worse, gushing).

Callistemon21 Fri 01-Apr-22 18:10:57

PECS I remember a couple of colleagues and I once spent our meal allowance on afternoon tea at the Pump Rooms in Bath.
Well, it was too late for lunch and too early for dinner and we had time to fill before our train home.
Very nice it was too!

Gilly3 Fri 01-Apr-22 18:03:12

Grany's maths is correct, it is 521 engagements for PC. Mind you an hour would be long enough for me with him.

PECS Fri 01-Apr-22 16:42:31

callistemon My father, a civil servant, had to travel when he worked for the then DSS, chairing tribunals. I believe he could retrospectively claim travel and hotel costs including breakfast & dinner..not lunch or alcohol. He treated his expenses as a bonus..which my mum endlessly pointed out it was not... and we would be taken out for a treat or he would buy a gadget , new book or toy for us!

Callistemon21 Fri 01-Apr-22 15:45:52

However, travel time or not travel time, there is a lot of work that goes on out of public view too, not just time spent on public appearances.

paddyann54 Fri 01-Apr-22 15:18:56

Nope ,never have been paid for 200 mile round trips ,your wage was your wage .My son worked for a short time a sa salesman....he was all over the country literally ,if he didn't make the sale he didn't get paid and he had to pay for his own travel ...this wasn't in the last century o
r even the last decade

Callistemon21 Fri 01-Apr-22 14:59:16

PECS

Pantglas I might ask for some back pay..all those residential school journeys..on duty 24/7....

Is that only be for civil servants...?

Certainly not PECS
I don't remember being paid from leaving home at 6.30 to catch a train to wherever then getting home at 10 pm, only just for the standard week.
Of course, there's always the on-call allowance for those who might get called out at any unearthly hour.

Callistemon21 Fri 01-Apr-22 14:56:08

Casdon

If you’re on a salary you travel in your work time so you’re being paid anyway, and organise your meetings accordingly though volver don’t you, which amounts to the same thing.

Oops, sorry, I saw that afterwards.

RTWT

Callistemon21 Fri 01-Apr-22 14:55:25

I cannot, however, tell you what colour dress Kate was wearing on the 23rd June 2011. I'm sure there are some that can
I'm sure it was blue.

Don't forget travel time either!

Anniebach Fri 01-Apr-22 14:09:15

The Queen’s seven grandchildren were there so doubt absence
of one was of concern

Daisend1 Fri 01-Apr-22 14:03:10

I was overwhelmed watching the memorial service wondering how the Queen must have felt where her grandson Prince Harry presence was made noticeable by his absence

PECS Fri 01-Apr-22 14:02:41

Pantglas I might ask for some back pay..all those residential school journeys..on duty 24/7....

Is that only be for civil servants...?

Pantglas2 Fri 01-Apr-22 13:54:26

Standard practice in public service that any travel from your normal place of work to another venue is paid working hours - unions wouldn’t allow anything else would they? If it’s good enough for us...

volver Fri 01-Apr-22 13:49:26

I have got up in the morning at 3am to catch the early flight to Paris and didn't get back until about 11pm. Then into work the next day.

Which is why I find it a bit hard to take when I'm told that the Royals work really hard.

Casdon Fri 01-Apr-22 13:43:38

If you’re on a salary you travel in your work time so you’re being paid anyway, and organise your meetings accordingly though volver don’t you, which amounts to the same thing.

volver Fri 01-Apr-22 13:36:41

I never got paid travel time over and above my basic salary.

Is that another Royal perk?

Casdon Fri 01-Apr-22 13:27:40

Yes paddyann in jobs where you are travelling extensively as an integral part of your role you do, of course, get paid your travel time as working hours. You aren’t expected to get up at 6am, travel from London to say Newcastle, carry out a full days work and then travel home again, arriving at say 9pm if it’s a requirement of your job and tomorrow you’re in say Cornwall. Most companies will deduct your normal home to office base time and pay you any hours above that.

Lucca Fri 01-Apr-22 13:14:54

Anniebach

grany you must spend hours every day reading about the royal family, don’t you get bored ?

Whereas…

paddyann54 Fri 01-Apr-22 13:06:54

Casdon do you and all the people you know get paid for travel time? Things are certainly different in your part of teh UK if thats the case.

volver Fri 01-Apr-22 12:51:07

Well, some of them are undoubtedly phone calls. For which I'm sure he doesn't do the actual dialling...he probably has a chap for that. grin

Casdon Fri 01-Apr-22 12:47:50

And - does the engagement time include travel time to, between and home from them too? It would need to if you want an accurate picture. (Not that I care in the slightest, but I’m sure Grany knows the answer because she knows everything there is to know about the Royals)

volver Fri 01-Apr-22 12:41:37

I can do it in my head, if you like.

2 1/2 hours per engagement, times 251, 627 hours, divide by 8, approx. 74 1/2 working days

No obsession. Just really good at arithmetic grin

I cannot, however, tell you what colour dress Kate was wearing on the 23rd June 2011. I'm sure there are some that can.

Anniebach Fri 01-Apr-22 12:28:36

To work out how long each of the 251 engagements lasted and
then work out they equaled 74 and 1/2 working days , ? , with respect that is a worrying obsession

Mollygo Fri 01-Apr-22 12:18:46

Callistemon21

? Anniebach!

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