Beautiful memorial service for Prince Philip

Iam64 Saints and sinners are extremes

And in the Daily Mail, from article to article in the same days news

The press present their view of the truth, usually biased towards the side they think will encourage most readers. That can change from day to day.

Not everyone believes in saints and sinners, or in the extremes printed in the press.

The press are truthful about everything re Andrew

The press lie about Megan and Harry

It was the same with Charles and Diana

Always has to be a saint and a sinner

The press were saying . . . ???

Yes, who knows what is true from the press

The press were saying that Charles and William didn’t want Andrew to have such a high profile duty at the service, but the Queen overrode them. Maybe it’s true, who knows.

We have no idea what the family did, although some seem to think they know !

But maybe she wanted to be. I imagine the family got together and decided how they wanted the service to be, and who would sit where, who should escort the Queen, etc.

Anniebach

Anne was escorted by her husband.

? But she didn’t have to be !!

Gilly3

While on the subject did anyone else notice the comforting smile Aunty Beatrice gave a bewildered little Charlotte during the service? Sweet.

First cousin once removed, not Auntie

Anne was escorted by her husband.

Princess Anne would have been a good choice to accompany her mother. Anne is popular because it seems, what you see, is what you get. She is also rather like her father.

The Queen rarely puts a foot wrong but, choosing to walk in to the service with Andrew was an unnecessary mistake. If Andrew had any regard for his mother, his children and wider family, he’d have said thanks mum for thinking of me but, in view of the ‘recent publicity’ I don’t believe it would be to your advantage. I’ll come and sit at the back, why don’t you get Anne to walk with you

Anniebach

Lucca difficult for some, not all, republicans to understand,
there were many who wanted to see and hear the memorial
service and not because they wanted to mock the bereaved.

The mocking and criticism on this thread is brutal and a link
to the Daily Mail, a newspaper scorned on this forum is now
applauded , so hypocritical.

Nobody has mocked the bereaved apart from one comment. One.

crooking his arm

Parsley3

The Queen didn’t look amazing, she looked grief stricken. Phillip has been denied the ceremony of a full state funeral due to Covid restrictions and his memorial service was shortened due to circumstances. Even I feel that he has been somewhat short changed.
I do wish that Andrew had not crooked his arm in such an awkward fashion. It looked oddly formal.

He was probably tensing and cooking his arm so that if the Queen were to stumble, he would be able to prevent her falling.

One could see it as a cynical PR manoeuvre , or accept it as
a decision that seemed logical & acceptable to the RF on a personal level .
Families hey, dammed if you do , dammed if you don’t.

I quoted from the DM. But I could have quoted from other sources. Applaud?

This was to all intents and purposes a state funeral. Due to the circumstances at the time of Philip’s death, a state funeral was not possible. I understand that it was the Queen’s wish that her husband be commemorated in this way. Other bereaved families who were denied a proper funeral because of Covid could also choose to hold a memorial service for their loved one if they so wish. Many members of the public wanted to feel part of this and they chose to tune in and watch on television. I didn’t because I wasn’t in the country at the time, although I did watch the funeral last year. I think I’ve become a republican (for a variety of reasons) although I was a monarchist for most of my life, because I don’t really like the idea of one family, through their birth, as being more worthy than other people. To me, they are not more worthy, all life is precious. I think the main issue about the memorial service seems to be Andrew. Personally I don’t think he should have accompanied his mother to her seat, although I think it was the Queen who decided he should. In my opinion her judgement was poor in this instance, because it is only six weeks since he paid a very large settlement in respect of the rape allegation, which while not proved, looks very suspicious re the allegation. With regard to Beatrice crying, I felt sorry for her in exactly the same way that I would feel sorry for anyone crying and grieving a family member. Grief feels the same whether you are rich or poor.

I feel sorry for the queen losing her husband. He was a great support to her all those years. It's very sad. I watched the service, and I was shocked when she walked in supported by Andrew. As were many. It took the focus away from PP.
It shouldn't have happened.

Anniebach I've run through the thread twice and I can't see any links to the Daily Mail, let alone anybody applauding it.

Lucca difficult for some, not all, republicans to understand,
there were many who wanted to see and hear the memorial
service and not because they wanted to mock the bereaved.

The mocking and criticism on this thread is brutal and a link
to the Daily Mail, a newspaper scorned on this forum is now
applauded , so hypocritical.

Anniebach they are not going to know what anyone here says..nor care if they did! My point is that as public figures they are very used to managing public & state occasions & need them to perpetuate their status and will have a team to field any public criticism. There was no need to hold this event.

Anniebach

Compassion must be reserved for private memorial services,
if public then ‘let’s mock snd jeer’.

Annie that is not what PECS said at all.