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Can I retire when I am fifty-three?

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ShropshireMiss Fri 22-Apr-22 01:13:09

Would it be realistic for me to retire in three years time, when I will reach 53 years of age?
I was a teacher for many years but a few years ago changed to a lower paid but less stressful/less time consuming civil service job.
I am now mortgage free with a small bungalow and no dependants.
My teachers’ pension will start in ten years time when I am 60 and will start at approx £12,000 together with a lump sum.
My civil service pension will start in 17 years time when I am 67 and currently will start at about £3,000 (I transferred in an old stakeholder pension) and will start at about £4,500 if I stay working another three years.
My state pension is due to start at 67, so in 17 years time, and I will have built up the full NI contributions by then (I need 37 years due to being contracted out).
What I’m not sure is will I be able to manage on my savings & investments between from age 53 to age 60 when the first pension starts, and then to age 67 when the other two pensions kick in?
I’ve got about £400,000 in savings & investments. A quarter of this is in premium bonds & cash ISAs. The rest is in stocks and shares which produce a dividend income of about £6,000 although it’s currently being reinvested.
I don’t have any children so leaving an inheritance isn’t an issue for me.
I feel like I should be able to take the plunge and retire now and live off the investments and savings, but it feels like a big step to take.

Mapleleaf Fri 22-Apr-22 12:30:20

I think that if you are still enjoying your job ( which you say you are), then continue with it for a while longer, maybe changing to part time at some future date to give you more of a feel of what retirement could be like for you.

You seem concerned that you might have to return to the office - has this been suggested or is it just something you think could happen? Perhaps a conversation with your boss or HR could put your mind at rest about this. It might be that it suits them for you to be at home.

The advice to seek the expertise of a reputable financial advisor is a very sensible one - they will be able to advise you on your options.

Anyway, I wish you the best of luck, and hope that you can reach a solution that you know will suit you. As another poster said, only you know what will make you happy. One persons idea of what to do in retirement will be another persons idea of hell, so go with your own instinct on this, once you’ve got answers to all your questions from professionals who can give you answers or at least options to consider.

ShropshireMiss Fri 22-Apr-22 12:04:31

Thanks everyone for all the comments, they are really giving me food for thought.
At the moment I do enjoy my job. I am working from home Monday to Friday 9am to 5pm with brilliant computer kit which I have set up in the dining room with a proper computer chair. I love it because I can completely control my work environment a home. Also I can completely switch off from work in evenings and weekends, and now solely use the dining room as a work space.
To be honest the thought of having to go to the office to work fills me with dread. So long as I can carry on working from home I’d be happy to carry on like this for another ten years. But if I have to go to the office to work the idea of retiring will be very tempting.
By the way I’m on annual leave at the moment so I’m not slacking off while working from home! I’ve had a lovely time tidying up the garden, reading on my kindle, watching films, and also stayed a few days with some relatives.

Doodledog Fri 22-Apr-22 12:02:30

Only you know you, and whether your plans would delight or appal others doesn’t matter. What I will say, however, is that there is a huge difference between being off work for a week or two and enjoying ‘chilling’, and seeing it stretch ahead for the rest of your life.

I retired at 57 with a similar pension to you (not as much in savings), and haven’t regretted it. I learnt that I do need some structure, though - as much as I loved pottering when I was working, I was only doing it on a short-term basis, and as a permanent prospect it soon lost its appeal grin. It’s easy enough to do something about that, though - I’ve taken courses, joined groups and so on, so I have less ‘time on my hands’, without having to set an alarm. There are things I miss about work, but I do part-time lecturing/consultancy which ‘keeps my hand in’, and keeps me in touch with others in my profession without the stress or responsibility.

On another note, I agree that static caravans are a money pit. We have one, and I love going to it. It’s great having our own things over there, and having the freedom to come and go when we feel like it, but in the past few years the atmosphere on sites has altered because of so-called ‘staycations’ making them very profitable for park owners. They make a fortune from selling new ‘lodges’ (posh caravans!) and will often try to find ways of getting existing owners to leave, so that they can sell their pitch to a new buyer. Contracts usually specify that you have to sell back to the park (or pay them a high percentage of a private sale). You lose tens of thousands if this happens, and there is always a rule that you have to ‘upgrade’ your lodge when it hits a certain age, even if it’s in great condition. Also, rent is expensive (and remember there is also insurance, fuel and various other costs to consider), so you will probably find that you want to get your money’s worth and won’t go elsewhere very often. I would buy one now, unless some sort of legal regulation comes in, as park owners can do as they please as it is. Ours is 5 years old, but we’ve been on the site for 25 years. I’d really miss it after all this time, but financially they are a disaster.

Shinamae Fri 22-Apr-22 11:36:38

I still work part time, I am 69 but with my state pension and my earnings I still live on less than £15,000 a year..

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 22-Apr-22 11:31:23

You may only be about half way through your life!
I retired at 62 from a very stressful job which involved a two hour each way commute. My head was always full of work stuff and I really enjoy being retired and having time to myself, deciding my own schedule. But your job doesn’t sound like that and you’re some years younger than I was.
My enjoyment of retirement comes purely from the absence of stress and other people’s demands 24/7. I have a husband so am not alone. I really couldn’t face the prospect of perhaps upwards of half a century alone spending my time as you describe. Have you thought about the long, dark winter months? In your circumstances I would want to work for a good many more years, perhaps not five day weeks, and get some absorbing hobbies under my belt before stopping work.

twinnytwin Fri 22-Apr-22 11:18:45

I retired at 52 - company was offering a voluntary redundancy package and I was able to take my company pension. That was 18 years ago and I've never regretted a single moment. DH was offered a similar package at the same time (different company) so we went for it. As the saying goes, I don't know how I found the time to work!

Pepper59 Fri 22-Apr-22 11:15:31

No, don't buy a static caravan. They depreciate in value and yes, Ive known folk get their fingers burnt trying to sell them. Just book a caravan holiday when you want one. No hassles.

ShropshireMiss Fri 22-Apr-22 10:59:16

I would like to do some volunteering, such as at a National Trust property, or with the home library service, and I do love visiting English Heritage, National Trust and Cade sites, and walking in the countryside. I had been thinking of buying a static caravan or holiday park home in Wales by either the sea or a lake to stay in at weekends, but that seems to be a bit of a minefield with dodgy caravan site and holiday park owners.

ShropshireMiss Fri 22-Apr-22 10:54:13

Thank you for all the comments, they are really giving me lots of helpful things to think about. No I don’t have a partner. I do have a cat.

Luckygirl3 Fri 22-Apr-22 10:51:16

The idea that you might have years and years of boredom ahead of you - sitting on patios reading would not enter my head. I never needed work to validate who I was, and have never been bored in my life. So much to enjoy out there when you have the freedom to do it - and it need not be expensive. Lovely places to walk in Britain, voluntary activities (e.g. school governor), wonderful literature to gobble up, new hobbies to try, fun to be had!!! Just do it!!

Chardy Fri 22-Apr-22 10:45:48

You used to be able to take your teaching at 55, but it would lose about 25% of what you'd get it you waited (because you wouldn't be paying in and they'd be paying out). I know a lot has changed with Teacher Prnsions in the last couple of years, I suggest you contact them.

DiscoDancer1975 Fri 22-Apr-22 10:39:41

I’m not brilliant with all the money side of things. All I know is...you never know what’s round the corner, whatever you choose to do.

All I would say is...you’re very young to be doing this, especially as you don’t have children/ grandchildren to invest your time in. I’m not saying this is the be and end all. Many people are estranged, or simply too far away for regular contact, but they do have these people on the back burner. Do you have a partner?

I would be mindful to be honest. Do you want years and years stretching ahead of sitting on patios reading? Great for a holiday....but the rest of your life?

If your health is good, I’d be rather inclined to stay in the thick of it, and be around people.

Whatever you choose to do, I wish you all the best.

ShropshireMiss Fri 22-Apr-22 10:37:44

Thanks for all the comments, they are all really useful and giving me things to ponder.
I wouldn’t consider taking any of my pensions early. I will automatically get my teachers pension at age 60, which I am extremely grateful for. I will get the full new state pension at 67 (maybe moving to 68) if I keep paying NI for four more years and I live that long. I will get the civil service pension at the same age I get the state pension, again if I live that long.
The other investments aren’t in a pension, so I can start either taking dividend income or selling chunks of them for income without any minimum age or penalty. Obviously being in stocks and shares the value of them could potentially halve if there was a stock market crash like what happened in 2008, but if I cashed the whole lot in now inflation would eat away at them.

Redhead56 Fri 22-Apr-22 10:32:23

It all depends on your lifestyle it seems rather early for retirement unless you want to travel widely while you are still fit and able. You have no family or commitments you seem determined you want to retire early so go for it.
We retired from our business at 60 and 65 some money has been spent on home improvements as they crop up. I contribute to our families trips out etc as they can be rather expensive I enjoy helping out.
I helped with childminding for a few years after retiring my husband started volunteering work. Our time is spent on hobbies gardening family and friends and our favourite sports club.
How do you plan to spend your time will you a work part time or volunteer?

Pepper59 Fri 22-Apr-22 10:23:21

Check you don't get penalised on your works pension for retiring before 60. Unless you are retiring on health grounds. It's just occured to me that in some professions you can get penalised for retiring before the allocated retirement age. Definitely see a reputable, independent, financial adviser. Wishing you the very best.

Luckygirl3 Fri 22-Apr-22 10:20:57

Heavens - I would be out of the door like a shot if I had your savings!! You only get one go at life and you have the chance to be free while you are young enough to enjoy that freedom - why wait? You do not know what is around the corner.

OH retired and was instantly diagnosed with PD - so that paid put to any retirement fun. I looked after him for years, then he died and then covid arrived instantly and now that that is waning I have very painful mobility-limiting conditions that stop me doing what I want to. I am not asking for sympathy here but just trying to illustrate the maxim of Seize the Day - you do not know what is waiting for you.

mumofmadboys Fri 22-Apr-22 10:14:22

I retired at 56. No regrets. Love being reired. It doesnt sound as if you have expensive hobbies or needs. Go for it would be my advice!

ShropshireMiss Fri 22-Apr-22 10:09:27

Thank you everyone for all your comments, they have all given me food for thought.
I know work does give you a purpose and a reason to get up in the morning. So you could end up retiring and then being bored. I suppose I was thinking of spending time at home reading on the patio and watching films, and perhaps doing some voluntary work such as volunteering at a local National Trust property. I would like to go for holidays in Wales on the coast, but I think that’s where the money might start getting tight.
At the moment I really enjoy my job as I can work from home with a brilliant computer set-up, but I’m not sure that I’ll enjoy work so much if I have to stop working from home and work in the office instead, which is what has started me thinking about retirement.
I know I could tinker with the investments, to get 4% income from the three quarters in stocks & shares which would produce £12,000 income a year and still leave the other quarter in cash ISAs and premium bonds for peace of mind.
A second option would be to carry on working for five more years and retire at 55, which would mean there would be five years between retiring and my teachers pension kicking in at 60 where I would be reliant on the savings & investments.
The third option would be the route of least resistance and carry on working for ten more years and retire at 60 when the teachers pension starts. I would be in a really good financial position then and am sure I would be able to afford frequent holidays to the coast in Wales. I can’t see myself being fit to work past 60 as I have some health issues, so 60 would be my maximum retirement age. To be honest could see myself working to 60 if I can carry on working from home, but am not sure I could cope with ten years in an office.

PamelaJ1 Fri 22-Apr-22 10:07:34

You don’t say if you are married so I presume that you aren’t.
My sister gave up her job at 60, her DH cut his working hours and she is finding it difficult, she hadn’t realised he was quite so needy.
It’s not all about money. Having it helps of course!
What will you do? I’m nearly 69 , work a couple of days a week and I love it. I meet people and keep stimulated, put the world to rights with my clients and get paid. What’s not to like?

foxie48 Fri 22-Apr-22 10:04:08

I worked for 5 years longer than I needed but it boosted my pension and I rather enjoyed my job. I actually spend more money in retirement than I did when working as I have more time to spend on my interests and hobbies. A good deal of my socialising was paid for by the company I worked for and I also got a nice car etc and now I have to pay for myself! I think it depends on what sort of retirement you want but at 53, you're probably looking at 30 or more years of retirement with possibly a long period of inflation ahead. I reduced my working days for a few years before retirement which worked well for me, perhaps work part time and see how you get on?

Franbern Fri 22-Apr-22 09:25:19

Considering retirement is a lot more than looking at the finances ( as important as that is).

Why are you thinking about retirement at such a young age?

Do you have some sort of hobby to which you wish to devote a great deal of time?

I finally retired just a few months before my 70th birthday (and I did have a very time-consuming hobby). I really thought I was ready for retirement (was already helping one or two days a week with a g.child), Can only say I hated it. Took me several years (plus a home move) finally to settle down into retirement mode.

I can understand someone in the OP's financial position and age, considering cutting back on work hours - going part-time, surely that is the best outcome.

henetha Fri 22-Apr-22 09:24:13

One of my family retired at 55, after years of planning for it.
It's been very successful and he doesn't regret it one bit.
So if this is what you really want, then yes, go for it.

Shelmiss Fri 22-Apr-22 09:19:06

If you can afford to, then why not? I’ve not worked professionally for a few years now, I’m 59 and loving it.

mumofmadboys Fri 22-Apr-22 09:16:43

Your savings are quite substantial and will provide an additional income for a long time

Cabbie21 Fri 22-Apr-22 09:09:34

I agree with all the advice already given.
I wonder what your motive is? What do you plan to do with your time? Do you have any health issues?
Personally I think it is a long time to be retired on a possibly limited income, but I don’t know your circumstances.