Pamper parties for children

silverlining48

I wish I knew how to attach stuff GG.

It’s easy to attach photos on the mobile site, underneath the box you type your message is a paper clip click on that, and you can go to photos /screenshot and add

I know silverlinings48 I think these pageants are more about what the parents want than their children.

I wish I knew how to attach stuff GG.

4 -24 year olds, and finals guess where ( yup Florida) oh dear, oh dear. Horrible for children, adults can make their own minds up, children can’t or shouldn’t be pushed into this .
Let them be children. It’s short enough as it is.
Four? Seriously?

Try again

There are pageants in the U.K.

I have attached the blurb for one

I am not familiar with these parties so just googled one at random. I was staggered to read that the minimum cost Monday to Thursday is £100 rising to £400 on a Sunday. No comment!

Sago

I started a thread recently about mobile phones on the school bus, many posters agreed with me but many responses were “ move with the times” why is it skin off your nose etc?

It’s the same thing, why can’t 9 year olds interact by playing games, doing a treasure hunt, pizza making anything but pampering, it’s just so sad.

“Play is often talked about as if it were relief from serious learning. For children play is serious learning, play is the work of childhood”.

I agree. Even if the party games we used to play are out of favour what's wrong with hiring a magician, or doing some arts and crafts, or going to the cinema or bowling or swimming with your friends?

Why do little girls need to behave like mini adults? Childhood doesn't last very long. No need to shorten it even more.

silverlining48

Those little girls fully made up in adult type clothes fir the American pageants make me queasy. I can’t understand the thinking, if any, behind this and glad it’s never found it’s way across here

I remember reading a few years ago that one of the groups who organise them tried to hold one in Ireland. There was public outrage and protests and the hotel pulled out and revoked their booking.
I believe they're legally banned in France.the

The worst American traditions seem to find their way here eventually.

Those little girls fully made up in adult type clothes fir the American pageants make me queasy. I can’t understand the thinking, if any, behind this and glad it’s never found it’s way across here

I started a thread recently about mobile phones on the school bus, many posters agreed with me but many responses were “ move with the times” why is it skin off your nose etc?

It’s the same thing, why can’t 9 year olds interact by playing games, doing a treasure hunt, pizza making anything but pampering, it’s just so sad.

“Play is often talked about as if it were relief from serious learning. For children play is serious learning, play is the work of childhood”.

And in my judgment pamper parties f or little girls, that emulate the adult experience up to having mocktails or pretend champagne are not a good development.
A little girl having a bit of nail polish applied while mum is doing hers, or messing around with her mother's lipstick is different.

No, we have to use our own judgement, obviously

Hithere

I remember kids getting hurt for playing musical chairs.
Even generation X stopped it for that reason

I wonder in which locations some posters live or how sheltered from the real world

Some of these threads expressing discontent or even outrage for today's world is worrysome, as if refusing to accept the world changes and standards also evolve with it

Objecting to certain changes doesn't mean people are refusing to evolve.
Are you suggesting people should blindly follow every change in the name of progress.
I would find that far more worrying.

We seem to be teaching women and girls that there is only one way to look and we should be "groomed" within an inch of our lives. We should be shouting out to our girls loud and clear that if they want to be their natural selves, leg hair and all, then they are still attractive and don't have to spend hours of time and shedloads of money in altering their appearance

Agree 100%

I had my first manicure and pedicure in my early 50s. That was quite late I suppose but we didn’t have spare cash to justify it. It was a lovely experience.
My gd has enjoyed painting her nails, mine and anyone else who allows it, since she was about 6 but would rather she didn’t get full on with hair, makeup fashion too soon.
Children are children for such a short time.

Germanshepherdsmum

I hate to see painted nails or makeup on children. As was said upthread it can attract the wrong sort of attention at an age when they have no idea how to deal with it. Why a parent or grandparent would encourage it I really don’t. Only a short step away from the dreadful children’s beauty pageants in the US.

A little bit of blue or green nail varnish on an under 5yr old boy barely lasts until
bedtime.
I honestly cannot see that as sexualisation and pamper parties are a million miles away from child pageants.

In 1978 my then 6 year old daughter went to a party and came home in great excitement to show me that she had (clear) nail polish and lip gloss on after having had a hand and foot massage. (The party girl’s mum was a sports massage therapist.) I remember it clearly because I was taken aback that it was done without consulting or informing the parents. On reflection I decided to overlook it, but simply asked the mum if she had considered allergies re the lip balm (she had not and was mortified).

As for the sexualisation of children, I have campaigned on this issue since 1989 and I do not conflate the issues of sexualisation with one of ‘dressing up’ like mummy or dad. Small children emulating mummy by wearing her make-up, shoes etc. has been going on for a very long time; there is a family tale of my 93 year old mother getting slapped as a 5 year old for ruining her mother’s only lipstick. I encouraged my own daughters to look after their skin and avoid make-up until their mid teens.

I hate to see painted nails or makeup on children. As was said upthread it can attract the wrong sort of attention at an age when they have no idea how to deal with it. Why a parent or grandparent would encourage it I really don’t. Only a short step away from the dreadful children’s beauty pageants in the US.

Pamper parties have been very normal where I live for 15+ years, not that i agree with grooming young kids into believing that they are not worthy as they are born, that they need to be enhanced with cosmetics to fit the mold.

I hate pink tax and do everything I can do to fight it

I remember kids getting hurt for playing musical chairs.
Even generation X stopped it for that reason

I wonder in which locations some posters live or how sheltered from the real world

Some of these threads expressing discontent or even outrage for today's world is worrysome, as if refusing to accept the world changes and standards also evolve with it

It’s just a different sort of party.

Things change over the years always have and always will, sometimes good sometimes bad.

When I have my regular manicures if I have had a GS with me they have often had their nails painted (aged 2 - 5 at the time) doesn’t make them effeminate.

I don't like the whole pampering industry.
We seem to be teaching women and girls that there is only one way to look and we should be "groomed" within an inch of our lives. We should be shouting out to our girls loud and clear that if they want to be their natural selves, leg hair and all, then they are still attractive and don't have to spend hours of time and shedloads of money in altering their appearance.
It is fine if it a choice, but it should be an informed choice and not an expectation.

Yammy

All just adding to the sexualisation of what would once have been considered young[little] girls. No wonder they attract the wrong kind of attention from predatory men and do not have the skills to cope with it.
My nearly teenage GD got a voucher for the Lego shop she was thrilled.

It isn't "sexualising" anything to learn to take care of your skin and paint your nails. Or are you saying the only reason women paint their nails is to attract men? I'm still painting mine and I can assure that isn't why I do it.