Can shops still insist on customers wearing face masks?

Vintagejazz

Biscuitmuncher

Blossoming but what difference does it make to your life if people wear masks? The whole point of this thread is masks offer very little protection. Perhaps well fitting medical grade masks do work, but how many people wear those? Most people are fully vaccinated and the risk for them has passed. Young people have given up nearly 2 years of education, now if it suits or not life has to get back to normal

No that is not 'the whole point of this thread'.

VintageJazz I agree - how can anyone reach the conclusion that
The whole point of this thread is masks offer very little protection shows just how some people can base their ideas on flimsy ideas and not evidence.

Obviously they haven’t had the benefit of input from a couple of the posters here.

The WHO has clearly stated that face masks, as part of a comprehensive strategy, prevent transmission of Covid.

How strange that medics - doctors, nurses, paramedics, vets - all wear them.
I wish you’d do us all a favour and (word of choice) off Biscuitmuncher and take your offensive comments with you. I have never seen you post on another subject - you’re obsessed with masks and vaccines.

Wear a mask or don't wear a mask. If you won't wear one for whatever reason stay away from places that require one. I hope that the mask deniers at least had the decency to social distance when that was required. I certainly gave non mask wearers a wide berth in enclosed spaces and will continue to do so in places where masks are still required. I had my eyebrows done recently and would have walked away if the beautician had refused to be masked. It is a part of life now.

Oh my gosh theres so much medical advice that say they don't work

You're not thinking for yourself Biscuitmuncher. You're acting selfishly and then leaping on ill informed theories that go totally against medical advice to back up your behaviour.

FannyCornforth are those people who can think for themselves

I suppose that we should pity those with the inability to empathise; and with such low levels of emotional intelligence.
Ditto those with zero compassion; and lacking any sense of shared humanity.

It must be a very limited and basic existence.

Fanny, I had a letter from the chief Medical Officer of Scotland, (wasn't that lovely that he took the time to write to me, when he is still so busy with the pandemic), giving me a phone number to call to access free LFTs and PCR tests. We also still have access to anti-viral treatment.

Someone (with expertise) must think Covid is still a threat to those of us who are extremely, clinically vulnerable.
I wonder if our anti maskers would have different view point, if in the early days of the pandemic, they had been told that they would most certainly die, if the caught Covid.

Biscuitmuncher

Blossoming but what difference does it make to your life if people wear masks? The whole point of this thread is masks offer very little protection. Perhaps well fitting medical grade masks do work, but how many people wear those? Most people are fully vaccinated and the risk for them has passed. Young people have given up nearly 2 years of education, now if it suits or not life has to get back to normal

No that is not 'the whole point of this thread'.

Mary, DH got a box sent to him out of the blue when they stopped being free.
We hadn’t ordered them - so I’m not sure what that was about.
I did wonder at the time if it was going to be a regular thing.

All dictirs, nurses and dental staff still wear masks. Do they know something we don't.,If you feel to continue wearing a mask,do so. I do in shops and crowded places, it is my decision.

Thats interesting Fanny. As CEV, living in Scotland, I have been offered free LFTs. Someone must think Covid is still serious enough to make them readily available.

I saw this this morning.
It was part of an email from Change, regarding a petition for free lateral flow tests for clinically extremely vulnerable people.
Anyway, I thought of this thread straight away.
Not that I think that it will make a blind bit of difference!

Biscuitmuncher

Grannynannywanny who have I taunted? All I have said is I don't believe the masks most people wear don't work , so why should people who don't have any infections wear them. They make me panic

... when you sneeringly suggest that those who still wear masks and who might well be at considerable risk should they catch the virus, are using them as 'comfort blankets', and say - as you did - that government have "got it made"... implying that people are stupid for following previous guidelines; then you are in fact taunting them.

I've read many comments on other social media sites using the same rhetoric. Anti-maskers start from a point which consists of insults and slurs... "wake up sheeple"... "still wearing your 'face-nappy'?", are two of the typical attacks from your brigade. It's not a convincing argument - and certainly not a science-based one...

I sympathise with those who don't like wearing a mask for whatever reason (does anyone like wearing them?)... I don't like wearing them either. But that is not the point.

I don't see anyone here demanding that young people are denied further loss of education - nor anyone who doesn't want some form of return to normality. They are asking whether it's reasonable to ask that, in certain environments like close contact in a shop, hairdressers or opticians, masks should still be worn. Those working in these environments also have a right to protection. My local chemist demands that everyone entering it wears a mask to protect themselves and their customers. And they have every right to do that.

The disparity between the law and guidance has created confusion, but it simply means businesses, not the government, will be responsible for making and enforcing any face mask rules.

So, I guess, would being told on ICU that they were going to intubate you.

Grannynannywanny who have I taunted? All I have said is I don't believe the masks most people wear don't work , so why should people who don't have any infections wear them. They make me panic

Flipping heck biscuitmuncher you really are tone deaf, aren’t you?

Blossoming but what difference does it make to your life if people wear masks? The whole point of this thread is masks offer very little protection. Perhaps well fitting medical grade masks do work, but how many people wear those? Most people are fully vaccinated and the risk for them has passed. Young people have given up nearly 2 years of education, now if it suits or not life has to get back to normal

Well said Blossoming. The mask deniers should walk a day in our shoes.

Biscuitmuncher

Dont be so silly Vintagejazz it completely goes against human nature

Dear God, this is so ludicrous I don’t know where to start.

I’m disabled and have several chronic health conditions. I’ve been this way for many years and I like to get out there, join in, participate and do stuff that other people do. I require reasonable adjustments to enable this. Wearing a mask is no big deal. It’s not interfering with your human rights. The fact that you think I should be isolated very much interferes with my human rights. I’ve experienced more isolation than most without Covid because society doesn’t treat disabled and vulnerable people very well, Please don’t try to patronise me with any ‘tragic cripple, Pat on the head’ garbage, I’ve heard it all before. I’m not arguing a hypothetical point, I’ve lived this stuff for several years.

Perhaps you would like me to off myself so I’m not causing anyone any inconvenience?

Biscuitmuncher
How is it normal to be masked?

Seriously? You’re back again to spout more crap?? I suppose your side kick will be along any time to back you up.

You have a history of ignoring direct questions but here’s one for you…

How is it normal to taunt posters who have a terminal illness and/or are extremely clinically vulnerable?

Biscuitmuncher

How is it normal to be masked?

I said it was a 'small sacrifice '. Anyhow you obviously live in a little bubble of your own with no sense of responsibility or concern for your fellow citizens so not much point in trying to debate with you.

Biscuitmuncher

vintagejazz wearing a mask isnt a small sacrifice though is it

Well, it was for me. Were you to have been involved in a major road accident, or needed urgent heart surgery, major cancer surgery, a serious head injury, my colleagues and I would have made that sacrifice willingly, for anything up to 12 hours at a time, to look after you in our operating theatres.

And before you start, it wasn't because it was my job.
It was because we bloody cared.

And that's what we get in return.