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Enough with the jubilee already.

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Honeysuckleberries Sat 28-May-22 22:50:40

The celebrations haven’t started yet and I’m already fed up with them.
I bought a loaf of bread yesterday and it had a silver crown on it and a jubilee message. When I think of the cost of redesign and printing a new message, it must impact on the price I’m paying.
Then I’ve just seen the itinerary for next week and I’m bemused by the timetable.
There’s a glorious fly past again with 40 planes and helicopters etc. I always remember my husband laughing at previous fly pasts as the UK has such a paucity of planes to do it that some of them were training planes and clapped out aircraft to bulk up the numbers.
I also didn’t realise the bank holidays were Thursday and Friday.
Oh well soon be over and we can have an in depth examination of Meghan and Harry and what they did/didn’t do, who wore what and how much did it cost etc. Ammunition for news articles for months and posts on gransnet.
Bring it on.

Boz Sat 04-Jun-22 15:40:25

I think that sometime this year they will announce a Regency. This means Charles will do most of the work but the Queen will not lose complete power.

Aveline Sat 04-Jun-22 15:43:13

paddyann you should look beyond your own back yard. The sheer number of jubilee events in Scotland has been highlighted all over the press and social media.

Callistemon21 Sat 04-Jun-22 15:46:06

Germanshepherdsmum

I feel sorry for him because apart from his short and none too illustrious stint in the Navy this is the only job he’s been trained to do and he’s been waiting for it for such a long time. A lifetime. He’s now an elderly man and his mother is happy for him to do the work but won’t let him have him have the title. It’s entirely possible that he could die before her.

Why do you say his Naval service was none too illustrious? GSM
He trained as a helicopter pilot then joined the RN where he served for five years.
By all accounts from those who served with him he was an excellent officer and then captain, helpful, understanding and not at all arrogant.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 04-Jun-22 15:47:46

He ran his ship aground!

Callistemon21 Sat 04-Jun-22 15:51:27

Germanshepherdsmum

He ran his ship aground!

Really?
Do you have a link please?

It seems to have missed the Naval grapevine.

Callistemon21 Sat 04-Jun-22 16:07:05

Callistemon21

Germanshepherdsmum

He ran his ship aground!

Really?
Do you have a link please?

It seems to have missed the Naval grapevine.

It's not true.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 04-Jun-22 16:16:25

My husband is in the know ...

Callistemon21 Sat 04-Jun-22 16:17:34

Funny that.

Are you married to our friend?

Glorianny Sat 04-Jun-22 16:32:07

You could have accused my late FIL of doing exactly the same thing. His minesweeper ran aground on a sandbank in the Channel. He knew they couldn't get off until high tide so all the men got off and played football on the sandbank. He was asleep when it happened but technically in command. It probably isn't that uncommon. (At least Charles wouldn't have to worry about a u-boat finding them)

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 04-Jun-22 16:35:07

Not that I know of Call!

Callistemon21 Sat 04-Jun-22 16:45:19

Glorianny

You could have accused my late FIL of doing exactly the same thing. His minesweeper ran aground on a sandbank in the Channel. He knew they couldn't get off until high tide so all the men got off and played football on the sandbank. He was asleep when it happened but technically in command. It probably isn't that uncommon. (At least Charles wouldn't have to worry about a u-boat finding them)

I've heard that story before!!
Making the best of a bad job ?

Glorianny Sat 04-Jun-22 16:59:52

Callistemon21

Glorianny

You could have accused my late FIL of doing exactly the same thing. His minesweeper ran aground on a sandbank in the Channel. He knew they couldn't get off until high tide so all the men got off and played football on the sandbank. He was asleep when it happened but technically in command. It probably isn't that uncommon. (At least Charles wouldn't have to worry about a u-boat finding them)

I've heard that story before!!
Making the best of a bad job ?

I think it probably happens more than most people think. Sandbanks are not fixed, they move about.

Callistemon21 Sat 04-Jun-22 17:02:23

Yes, dangerous things.

It may have been in a documentary years ago.

Callistemon21 Sat 04-Jun-22 17:03:06

Was it the North Sea? It's very shallow.

Dickens Sat 04-Jun-22 17:09:53

volver

In an odd move for a committed Republican wink I think that Charles could be the breath of fresh air the Monarchy needs. We know what he's like because he has had opinions on a lot of things, and talks about them. He won't be subject to the fawning attention from the "because he's been around all my life" brigade.

I seem to remember reading that there wasn't much enthusiasm for Edward VII after Victoria's long reign, but he was a pretty good King and the Edwardian era, although short, was quite lively and forward thinking.

Come on Charles, show us what you're made of. He'll have to dump the over the top uniforms, though.

With Charles, comes the Duchess of Cornwall. 'Queen Consort' - I'm not totally up on this, but I believe that's what she'll be called?

... and that opens a whole other can of worms doesn't it? I'm not going to voice an opinion - but there are plenty of people who will... she is really despised by some individuals who will not accept her as 'Queen'-anything!

More grist for the mill of the tabloid press who will pen endless articles on seemingly innocuous things - like "Camilla 'wows' in stunning new hat" or some such ridiculous headline, knowing full well that it will attract a storm of readers' comments both for and against the woman. And keep the circulation figures up, naturally. Along with the Harry & Meghan soap opera, the Camilla / Diana / Charles affair will ensure that the red tops retain their distribution.

And that's a shame, because it will overshadow information on Charles' attempts at modernising the RF, something that is more important to a lot of people.

Riverwalk Sat 04-Jun-22 17:14:06

I've no idea what Charles did or didn't do in the Royal Navy and have no insider knowledge.

I do remember reading many decades ago that his RN career came to an early end simply because he wasn't up to it, compared to his fellow officers.

It must take great skill and intelligence to command a warship so the powers that be can't just put anyone in command, and it wouldn't look good for Charles to be in a lowlier position than his contemporaries.

Heading charities, opening hospitals, starting the Prince's Trust etc. suits him and his abilities.

BlueSky Sat 04-Jun-22 17:15:57

Dickens whether Camilla is accepted or not won't make any difference, she’s here to stay as Queen Consort.

Callistemon21 Sat 04-Jun-22 17:17:26

I do remember reading many decades ago that his RN career came to an early end simply because he wasn't up to it, compared to his fellow officers.

Don't believe everything you read.

Knowing someone who served with him (and with Andrew) I know which one he respected.

Riverwalk Sat 04-Jun-22 17:25:55

Nothing to do with respect - I'm sure Charles was a nicer colleague than Andrew. I'm talking about naval skills and the ability to take command.

And not forgetting that Andrew saw active service in The Falklands - pity he then followed a different path.

Callistemon21 Sat 04-Jun-22 17:27:46

Riverwalk

Nothing to do with respect - I'm sure Charles was a nicer colleague than Andrew. I'm talking about naval skills and the ability to take command.

And not forgetting that Andrew saw active service in The Falklands - pity he then followed a different path.

I presume you have first-hand knowledge.

Anniebach Sat 04-Jun-22 17:27:52

Camilla is The Princess of Wales

Callistemon21 Sat 04-Jun-22 17:29:06

Anniebach

Camilla is The Princess of Wales

Yes, very odd to call her the Queen Consort!!

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 04-Jun-22 17:29:27

Charles was a decent and amiable bloke apparently, Andrew very arrogant. But husband always maintains that Andrew would have been decorated for gallantry for his Falklands service were he not a Royal.

Riverwalk Sat 04-Jun-22 17:35:42

Callistemon21

Riverwalk

Nothing to do with respect - I'm sure Charles was a nicer colleague than Andrew. I'm talking about naval skills and the ability to take command.

And not forgetting that Andrew saw active service in The Falklands - pity he then followed a different path.

I presume you have first-hand knowledge.

Why would you presume that - I've already said that I have no idea what Charles did or didn't do?

But I do presume that if he had greater skills he would have gone on to command major vessels and had a longer naval career.

Callistemon21 Sat 04-Jun-22 17:37:41

I have no idea what Charles did or didn't do?
presume

So why repeat assumptions online?
[cofused]