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Why would any family with children have a dog like this??

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Witzend Mon 27-Jun-22 12:16:57

Huge Canary Mastiff - I’d never heard of them until,last night.,

I’ll start by saying that we’re a firmly dog-loving family - we’ve had beloved dogs in the past - and dds and Gdcs have always been taught always to ask the owner first, before holding out a hand for the dog to sniff, before even thinking of touching them.

However, my Gds, nearly 6, was bitten by such a dog in a pub yesterday - having done the above and been assured that the dog was friendly - the family had their own children with them.

Thank goodness it was not serious - Gds was shocked but not really hurt. The dog gave no warning at all, and dd had believed the owners’ assurance that the dog was fine with children.

I do like to see dogs in pubs - I’d hate to see a general ban - but this has given us all a shock. As dd later said, ‘No warning - what if a huge dog like that had gone apeshit?’ ?

welbeck Mon 27-Jun-22 14:01:16

if they are trading as a food premises open to the public, there have to comply with food safety laws.
if someone got ill from contamination that could be traced back to animals' presence in food areas, then the operators would be liable, both civilly and criminally.

Blondiescot Mon 27-Jun-22 13:53:36

Cat cafes are very much a thing now - there is at least one in Edinburgh, and I believe there is also a chihuahua cafe too (I've never been in either).
If they're not your cup of tea, you don't have to go there.

Redhead56 Mon 27-Jun-22 13:52:30

Someone near us drives around with two dogs like that hanging out of the windows.
If I saw that walking towards me it would frighten me. It took me two years to go out with our dog again after being dragged to the ground by two dogs who attacked ours.
I don’t think dogs belong in pubs especially when children are around. Our one gentle dog is not allowed in the house when grandchildren visit.

Glorianny Mon 27-Jun-22 13:49:29

I don't dislike the dog. I do think dog owners should be aware of what their dogs were bred to do, and it certainly wasn't to sit in pubs and be petted by children. I don't like banning things but when stupid people own such dogs what else can you do?

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 27-Jun-22 13:44:19

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welbeck Mon 27-Jun-22 13:43:01

when i worked for a local authority re licensing special treatment premises, we had to add a clause forbidding any animal, wild or domestic from the treatment room.
i think there was a complaint from one customer who was having a tame tattoo, to the sight and presence of a snake slithering around nearby.
the tattoo artist said it was his muse.

3nanny6 Mon 27-Jun-22 13:42:55

Another poster said it looked like a Presa Canario which I believe is the correct name for it. I have seen a few of them out and about but the one in the picture is very big. It looks like a young bear cub sitting there, and the head size is huge.
I would be extremely cautious if it was in a restaurant and would either leave or make sure that my grand-children went no where near it, it is the size of the jaw that would do damage if it went out of control

Kate1949 Mon 27-Jun-22 13:42:49

I don't know how it works wellbeck. A friend went last week. She loved it as she is a cat lover.

welbeck Mon 27-Jun-22 13:39:25

i wonder how environmental health, food inspectors allow that.
perhaps there is a convenient looking away, due to lack of resources, and a notion that's it's a consenting cat lovers only place.
if some harm accrued, would be quite a legal tangle.

Kate1949 Mon 27-Jun-22 13:35:30

I used to be shocked when we visited France years ago to see dogs on restaurants. Now we're at it.
We have a cafe here in Birmingham called The Kitty Cafe. They take in stray cats and they are given free rein in the cafe, wandering about, jumping on tables. I like cats but that is disgusting.

Witzend Mon 27-Jun-22 13:31:24

It’s not just big dogs though, is it? Friends had a little Westie who once sank his teeth into a man’s leg in a pub - the poor bloke had only stepped back into what the dog evidently considered his owner’s space.

But he could be a snappy little bugger anyway - needless to say, he wasn’t taken to pubs after that.
They also had two entirely soppy Flatcoat Retrievers, and when they were out and about it was nearly always the ‘cute’ little white one children wanted to pat - only to be told a definite No - not the ‘scary’ big black ones - truly lovely-natured dogs who’d only have lavished licks on them.

Callistemon21 Mon 27-Jun-22 13:29:34

nanna8

Jaxjacky

Banned breed in Australia and NZ.

We’ve got more sense ! Scary looking thing.

Banned in Australia as an aggressive breed specifically bred for fighting.

I'm surprised they aren't a banned breed here in the UK - perhaps they are a new import and we haven't caught up yet!

Why would any family with children have a dog like this??
It beggars belief, Witzend.

Calendargirl Mon 27-Jun-22 13:25:18

I’m not a dog ‘hater’, but would never describe myself as a dog ‘lover’.

Don’t like to see any dog in pubs, big or small, would never dream of stroking one whether they were friendly or not. Certainly wouldn’t want a child touching a strange dog, whatever the owner said.

Kate1949 Mon 27-Jun-22 13:24:51

Yes something from a horror film.

Witzend Mon 27-Jun-22 13:23:35

Chewbacca

Just looking at that dog scares the bejesus out of me.

Me too, and I love dogs!
First thought was Hound Of The Baskervilles!

maddyone Mon 27-Jun-22 13:20:17

Kate1949

It's horrible.

I agree Kate.

Sparklefizz Mon 27-Jun-22 13:18:00

Chewbacca

Just looking at that dog scares the bejesus out of me.

I was thinking exactly the same!!

merlotgran Mon 27-Jun-22 13:17:40

Chewbacca

Just looking at that dog scares the bejesus out of me.

Ditto! I love dogs but I’d give that one a wide berth!

Kate1949 Mon 27-Jun-22 13:16:44

It's horrible.

Spice101 Mon 27-Jun-22 13:16:16

Jaxjacky

Banned breed in Australia and NZ.

Not on the banned list according to AQIS

rosie1959 Mon 27-Jun-22 13:14:28

Beautiful dog but hopefully the owners will be more aware of the breed of dog they have. May well be very protective of their own children but not so much with others
It’s not a breed I would choose either I believe it is a banned bread in certain countries and a dog for an experienced owner. I believe the correct name for the breed is Presa Canarios

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 27-Jun-22 13:13:00

It doesn’t help that the one in the picture is black. A different colour would probably look much less frightening.

nanna8 Mon 27-Jun-22 13:10:21

Jaxjacky

Banned breed in Australia and NZ.

We’ve got more sense ! Scary looking thing.

Chewbacca Mon 27-Jun-22 13:09:56

Just looking at that dog scares the bejesus out of me.

Kate1949 Mon 27-Jun-22 13:07:43

A child would stand no chance if that dog attacked. Or an adult for that matter. If that creature came into a room where I was I would immediately leave. What is the matter with people?