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Aveline Tue 16-Aug-22 12:58:47

Scotland has just appointed the first 'period dignity officer'. A man.
That really does beggar belief. I'm with Martina on this.

FarNorth Fri 19-Aug-22 22:55:23

Hi Galaxy, what physical issues would cause a women to be able to have a smear conducted by a female but not from a male? I thought the equipment used was the same?

A friend of mine, at the age of 18, was sexually assaulted by a male GP when she went for a birth control prescription.
Can you Baggytrazzas imagine experiencing that and being able to trust a male doctor or male nurse again?

Even worse (a separate issue, I know) if the woman requested a female to do her smear and got a man who claimed to be a woman.

volver Fri 19-Aug-22 20:45:20

You often make me laugh Callistemon.

Here's a hint - The D&A College has changed a lot since the days it was the Kingsway Tech.

Callistemon21 Fri 19-Aug-22 20:39:44

Perhaps there'll be a similar job in your area
Somewhere in Scotland.

The Period Product Act applies to the whole of Scotand, doesn't it.

I'm glad I made you laugh.

volver Fri 19-Aug-22 20:35:23

Oh my goodness, that really is funny. Good attempt at sarcasm spoiled by not noticing what other posts say. Where do you think I live Callistemon? ???

Callistemon21 Fri 19-Aug-22 20:16:40

We all know about your excellent qualifications and diverse experience, volver as you've mentioned them many times.

I used to be a project manager and I'm used to specifying project objectives. Can you tell?
Not really, no.

Perhaps there'll be a similar job in your area and you could apply for it?

volver Fri 19-Aug-22 20:16:09

Yes, I'm the silly one. ??‍♀️

Callistemon21 Fri 19-Aug-22 20:12:51

What a silly post.

volver Fri 19-Aug-22 20:07:35

Callistemon21

^Surely you can see that raising awareness and understanding of the Period Product Act means ...er... raising awareness and understanding of the Period Product Act, and it doesn't mean chatting with wee lassies about their periods^

I'm not sure how anyone can engage with staff, partners, communities and young people in developing and delivering a campaign that stretches across our regions, raising awareness and understanding of the Period Product Act and the expanse of work happening in our respective communities without mentioning periods.

If so, I am full of admiration.

No. I know you're not sure. That's painfully clear.

Have we got a new rule now? Don't mention periods? First time that's been mentioned. Are they taboo now?

The campaign is about making free period products widely available. Perhaps he wants to engage with young people to find out where would be the best place to have free products, what would suit them best. What are the places which they frequent where this service would be good? (I used to be a project manager and I'm used to specifying project objectives. Can you tell?)

Or, alternatively, he is a randy bloke in red, fixated on young girls with periods whose entire being is devoted to spoiling young lives and making them feel bad.

Callistemon21 Fri 19-Aug-22 20:04:11

Aveline

A man may have patented the tampon for commercial use but the earliest Egyptian papyruses mention their use by women thousands of years ago.

They didn't tell us that in our school textbook From Ur to Rome!

Callistemon21 Fri 19-Aug-22 20:01:15

Surely you can see that raising awareness and understanding of the Period Product Act means ...er... raising awareness and understanding of the Period Product Act, and it doesn't mean chatting with wee lassies about their periods

I'm not sure how anyone can engage with staff, partners, communities and young people in developing and delivering a campaign that stretches across our regions, raising awareness and understanding of the Period Product Act and the expanse of work happening in our respective communities without mentioning periods.

If so, I am full of admiration.

volver Fri 19-Aug-22 19:56:10

Aveline

Of course volver you know best as always. It's an honour to have you here on our humble thread.

I've been told off and suspended in the past for responding to personal posts like this. So I won't be responding. But I'm sure most people will see this for what is.

Galaxy Fri 19-Aug-22 19:27:45

Because they have been raped by a man and both mentally and physically would not be able to deal with that. There are many harrowing accounts of women who have been raped who have described their reactions.

Baggytrazzas Fri 19-Aug-22 18:35:51

Galaxy

It doesnt apply to this job as far as I am aware but there are very good reasons why some women need to be offered same sex medical interventions, so for example for some women they physically would not be able to have a smear for example from a Male nurse. Their cancerous cells would remain undetected if that was the option.

Hi Galaxy, what physical issues would cause a women to be able to have a smear conducted by a female but not from a male? I thought the equipment used was the same?

Baggytrazzas Fri 19-Aug-22 18:33:45

I've followed this thread and made several comments but am completely lost as to what all the " concerns" actually are.

It just seems to me like a big excuse for some serial GN ranters to get their tuppennceworth in, without being able to explain clearly what their concerns are founded on.

There is everything in here including the cost, gender, political parties,colour of his shirt, potential of stealing free sanitary products ( I am drawing on patience I didn't know I possessed with that one), " men getting off talking about periods" and goodness knows what else.

I would suggest that as there are likely to be lots more vacancies for jobs either the same or very similar to this one that we wait and see how it all develops after the people are in the roles for some time, before wasting any more time screaming about what are basically non issues.

Some of you could even apply for the other jobs if you feel you could do better.

I'm sorely disappointed in a lot of people here who complain about lots of things and do not seem to want to support initiatives such as this that could improve the lives of so many people. I would have thought that most people on here would have experienced some difficulties with periods at some point in their lives, if not period poverty then possibly getting access to appropriate sanitary products when these were needed, access to accurate information, health issues associated with periods, and just raising the general awareness of the whole thing.

Just because you had to put up with it doesn't mean we can't make it better for others.

Aveline Fri 19-Aug-22 18:19:30

A man may have patented the tampon for commercial use but the earliest Egyptian papyruses mention their use by women thousands of years ago.

Galaxy Fri 19-Aug-22 18:19:27

It doesnt apply to this job as far as I am aware but there are very good reasons why some women need to be offered same sex medical interventions, so for example for some women they physically would not be able to have a smear for example from a Male nurse. Their cancerous cells would remain undetected if that was the option.

Dickens Fri 19-Aug-22 18:10:32

... I believe it was a man who actually invented the tampon.

VioletSky Fri 19-Aug-22 17:55:31

I don't understand what the problem is really?

It was a man who removed cells that were turning cancerous from my cervix. The man was an expert at his job. It would never have occurred to me to ask for a female doctor, I just wanted someone to save my life.

Also anecdotally, my Dad explained periods to me and helped me buy all the sanitary things. My mother wouldn't discuss it and thought it was "disgusting". I don't know what sort of panic I would have been in without his knowledge and support. He was quite progressive for his time.

Aveline Fri 19-Aug-22 17:43:46

Of course volver you know best as always. It's an honour to have you here on our humble thread.

volver Fri 19-Aug-22 17:42:02

Callistemon21 come on. Surely by now you know that only volver's conclusions are the right ones! (Note: other conclusions are available!) volver is among the people on this forum who are able to read a thread and look at the background to it without immediately thinking it means something else instead? Surely you can see that raising awareness and understanding of the Period Product Act means ...er... raising awareness and understanding of the Period Product Act, and it doesn't mean chatting with wee lassies about their periods.

Or maybe not. There is definitely a blinkered view on here and I did actually think that people would have more understanding of the modern world. Again I say, maybe not.

Callistemon21 Fri 19-Aug-22 17:21:27

I did say I hoped he would be chatting with boys as well because, unfortunately girls are subjected to a lot of bullying about periods.

Is that part of his remit?

Callistemon21 Fri 19-Aug-22 17:15:03

You're a brave woman, Aveline!
?

Aveline Fri 19-Aug-22 17:13:51

Callistemon21 come on. Surely by now you know that only volver's conclusions are the right ones! (Note: other conclusions are available!)

Callistemon21 Fri 19-Aug-22 17:10:18

I've never found much that is dignified about periods. Perhaps he would be able to explain it to me.

Callistemon21 Fri 19-Aug-22 17:08:52

volver

You're not reading the posts explaining what the job is, I think. Just jumping to conclusions. The wrong conclusions.

How, exactly?

The Lead Officer will provide outstanding project leadership and management for a range of activities, events, and outcomes. This will include engaging with staff, partners, communities and young people in developing and delivering a campaign that stretches across our regions, raising awareness and understanding of the Period Product Act and the expanse of work happening in our respective communities