I cannot believe it!!

Galaxy

Be good to have a campaign reducing cost of period pants, they are popular amongst young women, and are pricey. I suppose the cost may reduce as more women use them.

How effective are they, really?
Are they the future?

I used to favour a 'belt and braces' approach and can see they could provide more confidence in combination with a tampon.

There, is, however, the cost of laundering them to add in.

Be good to have a campaign reducing cost of period pants, they are popular amongst young women, and are pricey. I suppose the cost may reduce as more women use them.

What on earth?!?

We have a basket at work that has everything we might need in it that could be forgotten. Deodorant, dry hair spray nail scissors and tweezers, hair bands, plasters and sanitary towels and tampons.

It's brilliant

People who can't afford sanitary protection can't afford much else usually.

It's a different view, not one I necessarily agree with but then again I disagree with James O Brien on a number of things. I am an ardent remainer but if I listened regularly I think I might convert

Good grief. Is she on another planet?

Its not a big deal she says

"This is a huge problem so lets not do something that might help some people". Is that the approach?

Period poverty isn't separate from overall poverty so it addresses only one tiny aspect.

No, I agree. But I was heartened that about 90% of the callers could see that this was a non-story.

Presumably anyone else was off reading Maya's tweets - she who believes that there is no such thing as period poverty.

I am not sure lots of people being in favour of something demonstrates anything really. As I say I have no strong feelings either way.

Anyone listen to the James O'Brien show on LBC about this?

He actually changed his mind as he was introducing the item in a five minute monologue because he could see the daftness of complaining that a project manager couldn't have the job because they are a man. As somebody said on his show, "I don't think people know what project managers do".

Every caller on the hour long discussion - male and female - was in favour of the appointment, until a woman called in right at the end to complain about women's voices being marginalised etc etc.

Oh, god, I'm going to take some flak for this - but it sounded like she was whining. "Listen to me, you don't have the lived experience". To which James responded, that male midwives, and lots of female midwives, don't have the "lived experience" either.

Like I said above, lot of fuss about nothing.

MickyD really? See previous posts.

Earlier this week, a true radical – physiotherapist and comedian Elaine Miller – said she was spat at on the street for daring to talk about women’s health issues in her Fringe show, Viva Your Vulva: The Hole Story.

Her crime? Not mentioning trans women in her script. But her show – awarded a five-star review by [The Scotsman] newspaper – does talk bluntly about the biological wonders of vaginas and vulvas. Perhaps Jason should catch Elaine’s show before its run ends – think of it as research, bro’.

www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/taysides-male-period-dignity-officer-is-a-parable-for-scottish-public-life-susan-dalgety-3812144?fbclid=IwAR2cpxHEXAjpBIiZzQexnXIaadGXpeEj3FBjv9khiXp8wNbOyPXvFQAbf5g

volver

As someone who has a tenuous connection with one of the institutions involved with this, (see above), I'd just like to say that the sh!t stirring and unfounded accusations about this position and the person appointed to it are execrable. But, unfortunately, not unexpected.

The lack of awareness on this thread and the completely groundless accusations, just make me sick.

I’m 100% with you here. The ignorant uneducated comments shock me.

Oh, Lord, we had that textbook too
Required reading for every 1950s 11 year old!
No adults talked much about periods back then so learning that women in Ancient Egypt used papyrus as tampons would have not been part of the curriculum!

From the job description here though, I don't think medical examinations will come into it, which is good.

Baggytrazzas I was responding to your post about smear tests, as should have been obvious since I quoted it.

The very creation of this job is an extremely clear indication that women are being listened to and their basic needs are being addressed. It is a start and instead of complaining about it, more people should be trying to make things better in their area by demanding similar.

Aveline

And when I read comments like that I think we're back then too - to a time when women's opinions and feelings didn't matter.

I am sure that everyones opinions and feelings matter Aveline not only women's and it's up to us all to try to make things better gradually and try out new ideas and ways. We can always change again if this post doesn't deliver what it is intended to.

And when I read comments like that I think we're back then too - to a time when women's opinions and feelings didn't matter.

When I read some of the comments here I think I have stepped back into The Tudors.

Callistemon21

Aveline

A man may have patented the tampon for commercial use but the earliest Egyptian papyruses mention their use by women thousands of years ago.

They didn't tell us that in our school textbook From Ur to Rome!

Oh, Lord, we had that textbook too, in the first year or two of senior school. I found it repellently boring. It put me right off history for years. Hardly any pictures except a tiny B&W line drawing of a ziggurat or something every 100 pages.

Shame, because in the last year of junior we had such a good, eminently readable book on the Tudors, with lots of colour pictures.

No problem it's not specifically to do with the originally post but threads often drift.

Galaxy

Because they have been raped by a man and both mentally and physically would not be able to deal with that. There are many harrowing accounts of women who have been raped who have described their reactions.

Hi thanks for clarifying, from your earlier post I thought you meant only physical.

No I mentioned it was not relating to this job but lots of people were saying that in terms of medical care they didnt care but that's not the case for many women.

FarNorth

^Hi Galaxy, what physical issues would cause a women to be able to have a smear conducted by a female but not from a male? I thought the equipment used was the same?^

A friend of mine, at the age of 18, was sexually assaulted by a male GP when she went for a birth control prescription.
Can you Baggytrazzas imagine experiencing that and being able to trust a male doctor or male nurse again?

Even worse (a separate issue, I know) if the woman requested a female to do her smear and got a man who claimed to be a woman.

Hi, yes I agree that it's awful that anyone has been assaulted by anyone who is in a position of trust. But it's not only men who carry out assaults on women. As far as I know everyone can ask for a male or female to examine them and carry out medical examinations and procedures depending upon availability and at the least a medical chaperone can usually be arranged.

From the job description here though, I don't think medical examinations will come into it, which is good.