Duchess of Sussex the bullying has to stop.

She uses words that mean nothing to those in the UK. Here in the US, we understand exactly what she means. Which is good since her podcast and article are released in the US on US platforms for US audiences.

Here you go

the ‘optics’?

DH has optics on a stand, one with whisky, one rum and one brandy. Does she mean those kind of optics?

she’s beginning to come across as unhinged

Precisely.

And just making things up much of the time.

And some of her phrasing, what on earth does she mean when she talks about the ‘lens’ and the ‘optics’?

She seems to use a gobbledegook of words which mean nothing to the ordinary person.

You are not the only one Dickens.

There are the same reactions, but in the opposite direction, to anyone attempting to inject any fact that doesn't shed a good light onto the Sussexes. a similar echo of "If you don't believe they are ill-treated by these horrible people you are pro-abuse of coloured people" etc etc

Polarisation - if you are not for them, you are against them.

icanhandthemback

What a horrible post with the name calling and wishing them ill on earning their living to support their children. And of course, Tom Bowers gave a balanced account because he thought that would make him money.

I only got as far as *Hazbeen*.

The name-calling... Tony B-Liar, David Camoron, etc, etc - the name-twisting to insult and ridicule - it's all so juvenile. God, we used to do this in school with teachers we didn't like but grew out of the habit. I cannot take seriously those who do this. It's tedious and gets old really quickly.

It just precludes any rational debate. Or maybe that's the idea? Or perhaps I'm just too old and my education, where I took part in serious debates on topics relevant at the time which were conducted in an atmosphere of intelligent and open-minded tolerance (albeit heated at times) - is simply now outmoded, too old-fashioned, irrelevant to the modern age?

And if you attempt to inject a note of rationality into the 'discussion', - if you say, "oh, but hang on a minute, are your assumptions correct maybe he / she is not doing what he or she is doing for the reasons you ascribe to them, you are automatically assumed to be "pro". You've got to be in the 'for' or 'against' camp.

It's just all so dumbed-down and immature. But, it could just be me that finds it depressing because it's not the style of debate I grew up with or am used to and I need to get into the 21st century. But I am reluctant.

happycatholicwife1

Spot on, Yammy. As for her being black, that may be a genetic fact but my features look blacker than hers and her skin is not particularly dark. Her behavior is more like that of a duchess than of someone in modern Black culture. I never really thought of her as black, except for her non-stop talking about it. I doubt that the British people you her as black per se. She strikes me as someone who wants to have the ability to cloak herself in her blackness when she needs it and drop it when she does not. She also strikes me as very, very ambitious and controlling. But having to have them lolling around over here! Too bad she couldn't have taken her 7,000 square foot floating yoga floor with her or donated it, at the very least, to some women's center.

What a vile observation about her not looking black enough and then topping it off with putting down people of colour for how they act.

Just...wow.

Personally I don't feel the Duchess of Sussex does herself any favours. In her recent interview with The Cut magazine in the US, she is still going on about how she was treated in the Royal House. I am not sure what she wishes to achieve by this, but, from my perspective, each action she takes adds more to what I believe to be her narcissistic profile. We have yet to see how this pans out, but, if asked, I would say she is suffering with narcissistic rage as she was unable to be in the role she imagined for herself.

I used to read articles about M&H with a kind of ‘Oh Lord. What now?’ feeling and often ended up laughing at their outstanding cheek.

Now I feel a mixture of anger and despair whenever Meghan takes a swipe at everything the Queen has held dear during her long reign. Harry? Not so much because he usually spouts nonsense.

When is she going to stop her endless self pity? Nobody forced her to marry into the RF and she’s beginning to come across as unhinged. To be honest her power is slightly scary.

There have been comparisons between her latest cover photo and the one of Diana on the Andrew Morton book. Of course this is all about Meghan’s timing (again!) but I don’t think Diana, who had legitimate grievances and had good reason to want to tell her side of things would ever have jeopardised the future of the monarchy itself because she was mindful that her elder son was a future king.

She also didn’t need to make money by putting the boot in.

GraceQuirrel

Anyone pro Hazbeen and MeGain needs to read Tom Bowers very informative and well written book about them (her mainly). Both should be done for treason in my humble opinion and failing that, strip them of their titles. With no connection to the royal family their earning potential diminishes dramatically hurrah!!!

What a horrible post with the name calling and wishing them ill on earning their living to support their children. And of course, Tom Bowers gave a balanced account because he thought that would make him money.

I don't think America is nearly as fascinated by the royal family as we think they are, and I believe (DT) they are getting a little tired of H and M because they have nothing new or relevant to offer. and they are not very good at it, anyway.

Same here lipstick

I am sick to death of them. Wish they would just disappear and I don’t care where

I think releasing a podcast for Americans in America is concentrating on America.

nanna8

They just need to concentrate on America where they are accepted and seemingly popular. They really need to cut ties properly and stop harping on about the past.

She could go back to acting, he could carry on lecturing anyone who cares to listen how to save the world.
Then there is always a little cushion of inheritance and past earnings to fall back on.

Chestnut

Callistemon21 Just to clarify I don't mean you to move on, Chestnut
I did wonder whether you meant them or me. Ha ha. Thought it must be me. I find it hard to move on when M is threatening the RF especially the Queen whose state of health is unknown.

I reread it and thought Oops!

They just need to concentrate on America where they are accepted and seemingly popular. They really need to cut ties properly and stop harping on about the past.

Callistemon21 Just to clarify I don't mean you to move on, Chestnut
I did wonder whether you meant them or me. Ha ha. Thought it must be me. I find it hard to move on when M is threatening the RF especially the Queen whose state of health is unknown.

The saying "Everyone's out of step but me" comes to mind.

Did anyone really care if they resigned, rejected all the titles and went to live in America? I doubt it. Just go and do it quietly.
Harry was possibly looking for an escape route for a long time, my dear friend used to say "Just let him marry Chelsy and they can go off and live happily and quietly in Africa".

I think it is Megs doing the bullying. How many people do you know who have managed to fall out so badly with every member of both families, except for one her mum. Everyone is in the wrong except her

Chestnut

Callistemon21

Every time she speaks it becomes clearer what an arch manipulator she is. Superficially those seem to be the words of an innocent bystander, but underneath is a dangerous and unsettling threat to the RF.

What on earth is the point of it all? Really - just why?
Move on.

She 'threatens' the RF but without saying it openly which is both disturbing and fascinating at the same time. She hints at damaging revelations which she knows will unsettle them and cause anxiety. It's so cruel and manipulative. Harry seems to be a willing participant which is even more astonishing.

Just to clarify I don't mean you to move on, Chestnut

I meant that it's time Meghan and Harry moved on although this seems to be their new career, their livelihood now. A pity.

I never thought I'd think that as I thought Meghan was like a breath of fresh air and that Harry had found happiness at last a woman he loved. One who didn't mind having the spotlight on her, a woman who was used to the rather intrusive glare of publicity which Royal life seems to attract.

I never understand how people can complain constantly about members of their family, often grandparents, uncles, aunts, to their children . Most families have disagreements and sometimes fallouts are justified, and a recount of their abominable behaviour to close friends is possibly cathartic, but to keep attacking and spreading stories endlessly in public is poor behaviour for anyone, in the public eye or anonymously. Eventually it rebounds on the originator as the eternal repetition of grudges is questioned and sympathy develops for the other, usually silent, side.

Observe carefully how people treat waiters, staff etc.
It says a lot about them.
And Meghan?

Wow! Meghan is bullied? I think if anyone is a bully it's her!