Duchess of Sussex the bullying has to stop.

I used to read articles about M&H with a kind of ‘Oh Lord. What now?’ feeling and often ended up laughing at their outstanding cheek.

Now I feel a mixture of anger and despair whenever Meghan takes a swipe at everything the Queen has held dear during her long reign. Harry? Not so much because he usually spouts nonsense.

When is she going to stop her endless self pity? Nobody forced her to marry into the RF and she’s beginning to come across as unhinged. To be honest her power is slightly scary.

There have been comparisons between her latest cover photo and the one of Diana on the Andrew Morton book. Of course this is all about Meghan’s timing (again!) but I don’t think Diana, who had legitimate grievances and had good reason to want to tell her side of things would ever have jeopardised the future of the monarchy itself because she was mindful that her elder son was a future king.

She also didn’t need to make money by putting the boot in.

Personally I don't feel the Duchess of Sussex does herself any favours. In her recent interview with The Cut magazine in the US, she is still going on about how she was treated in the Royal House. I am not sure what she wishes to achieve by this, but, from my perspective, each action she takes adds more to what I believe to be her narcissistic profile. We have yet to see how this pans out, but, if asked, I would say she is suffering with narcissistic rage as she was unable to be in the role she imagined for herself.

happycatholicwife1

Spot on, Yammy. As for her being black, that may be a genetic fact but my features look blacker than hers and her skin is not particularly dark. Her behavior is more like that of a duchess than of someone in modern Black culture. I never really thought of her as black, except for her non-stop talking about it. I doubt that the British people you her as black per se. She strikes me as someone who wants to have the ability to cloak herself in her blackness when she needs it and drop it when she does not. She also strikes me as very, very ambitious and controlling. But having to have them lolling around over here! Too bad she couldn't have taken her 7,000 square foot floating yoga floor with her or donated it, at the very least, to some women's center.

What a vile observation about her not looking black enough and then topping it off with putting down people of colour for how they act.

Just...wow.

icanhandthemback

What a horrible post with the name calling and wishing them ill on earning their living to support their children. And of course, Tom Bowers gave a balanced account because he thought that would make him money.

I only got as far as *Hazbeen*.

The name-calling... Tony B-Liar, David Camoron, etc, etc - the name-twisting to insult and ridicule - it's all so juvenile. God, we used to do this in school with teachers we didn't like but grew out of the habit. I cannot take seriously those who do this. It's tedious and gets old really quickly.

It just precludes any rational debate. Or maybe that's the idea? Or perhaps I'm just too old and my education, where I took part in serious debates on topics relevant at the time which were conducted in an atmosphere of intelligent and open-minded tolerance (albeit heated at times) - is simply now outmoded, too old-fashioned, irrelevant to the modern age?

And if you attempt to inject a note of rationality into the 'discussion', - if you say, "oh, but hang on a minute, are your assumptions correct maybe he / she is not doing what he or she is doing for the reasons you ascribe to them, you are automatically assumed to be "pro". You've got to be in the 'for' or 'against' camp.

It's just all so dumbed-down and immature. But, it could just be me that finds it depressing because it's not the style of debate I grew up with or am used to and I need to get into the 21st century. But I am reluctant.

There are the same reactions, but in the opposite direction, to anyone attempting to inject any fact that doesn't shed a good light onto the Sussexes. a similar echo of "If you don't believe they are ill-treated by these horrible people you are pro-abuse of coloured people" etc etc

Polarisation - if you are not for them, you are against them.

You are not the only one Dickens.

she’s beginning to come across as unhinged

Precisely.

And just making things up much of the time.

And some of her phrasing, what on earth does she mean when she talks about the ‘lens’ and the ‘optics’?

She seems to use a gobbledegook of words which mean nothing to the ordinary person.

the ‘optics’?

DH has optics on a stand, one with whisky, one rum and one brandy. Does she mean those kind of optics?

Here you go

She uses words that mean nothing to those in the UK. Here in the US, we understand exactly what she means. Which is good since her podcast and article are released in the US on US platforms for US audiences.

Meghan recalls a moment from the 2019 London premiere of the live-action version of The Lion King. 'I just had Archie. It was such a cruel chapter. I was scared to go out.' A cast member from South Africa pulled her aside. 'He looked at me, and he's just like light. He said, "I just need you to know: When you married into this family, we rejoiced in the streets the same we did when Mandela was freed from prison." '

However, it now appears that the only South African cast member has said that he has never met Meghan and was not at the UK premier.

Another delusion to add to her list? ?

LRavenscroft

Personally I don't feel the Duchess of Sussex does herself any favours. In her recent interview with The Cut magazine in the US, she is still going on about how she was treated in the Royal House. I am not sure what she wishes to achieve by this, but, from my perspective, each action she takes adds more to what I believe to be her narcissistic profile. We have yet to see how this pans out, but, if asked, I would say she is suffering with narcissistic rage as she was unable to be in the role she imagined for herself.

Exactly. After being at the receiving end of someone who is a narcissist and suffers with a personality disorder many years ago, IMHO, Meghan has some traits of narcissism.
That weird looking guy -Scobie is one of her 'flying monkeys'.

I think that the Royal Family as a whole is in dire need of reforming, getting rid of it’s dated rules and outlook. I cannot see that Charles will ever be strong enough to do this, and (if there is still a monarchy when Charles dies) this will be up to William. For the time being maybe they should scrap the ‘don’t complain, don’t explain’ mantra, which is now nonsense anyway following the odd official comments that are thrown out now and again, and either speak out or shut up.

However………

Harry, who admitted, suffered a terrible trauma at a young age (as did his brother!) had a, shall we say, protected career in the army, and then was supported financially by the Duchy of Cornwall via his father. He is now approaching 40 and it’s about time he supported his family without resorting to bemoaning his lot, talking about his mother and making veiled references to the RF.

Meghan, on the other hand is an intelligent woman ( though she did not get a high enough mark to pass the Foreign Service Officer Test) who earned a high salary, was very ambitious and is totally convinced that she is right about most things. Now over 40 she no doubt feels she has not yet earned the recognition that she craves.

I obviously agree that they need to have a roof over their heads, but does it need to be such a large one which must cost a tremendous amount in upkeep? Do they have to make a living trading on their Royal connections? For a couple who were craving privacy, is it good for their (much spoken of) mental health, to be so bitter, are these constant references in interviews etc really cathartic, or should they try to move on?

There are rights and wrongs on both sides, but the way things are going (plus the Prince Andrew problem) I really think that this situation could bring down the Monarchy. I know that there are those on this platform who would think this to be a good thing, but I am not so sure. One thing I do think is that if the Monarchy goes, so will the “good life” for the Sussexes.

I don’t think Meghan will bring down the monarchy.

Wallis Simpson, another American divorcee, didn’t, over 80 years ago, and that was in relation to the actual King. To be fair, I think Wallis would have got out if she could, but she was in too deep.

Harry must really lie awake at night and wonder how they ended up as they are.

I cannot believe he is happy how things have turned out, not gone according to Meg’s plan at all.

That's what I don't understand merlotgran. She's not stupid and yet the stories she comes out with are so easily disproved.

The wedding before the wedding and now this supposed conversation with a cast member of The Lion King. Accusations against unnamed members of the RF. The latest in the Cut magazine article about how 'they' could pick and choose which duties to undertake.

It would be better if they had their titles taken away from them. A shame for Harry but let's be honest, the interest in Meghan is that she's a Duchess and without her title, surely there would be less interest.

Calendargirl neither do I, not Meghan alone, she is not important enough, but there seems to be more criticism now of the Royal Family in general than there has been for a while. Then think about the economic state that the country is in, and how bad it is likely to become for many people who are already struggling, and how soon before comparisons are made with the comfortable existence of the Royals, including Meghan and Harry. Republicans will have their arguments strengthened.

I agree with your comments about Harry, he obviously seems to love Meghan very much, but I don’t think things are panning out the way he had hoped, he just doesn’t look happy.

Smileless I think that the problem in removing the Dukedom is that it would make Meghan’s title Princess Henry, just like Princess Michael. Inevitably the ‘Henry’ bit would not be understood by many outside this country and she would inevitably become Princess Meghan, which, again to many, would sound a more senior status than a Duchess.

I think that the Royal Family as a whole is in dire need of reforming, getting rid of it’s dated rules and outlook. I cannot see that Charles will ever be strong enough to do this, and (if there is still a monarchy when Charles dies) this will be up to William

I think that Charles is a reformer and many of the changes which have happened in recent years are at his instigation.

Yes and he sticks to his guns.

Callistemon, Merlotgran. I sincerely hope you are both right about Charles, I honestly would be pleased to be proved wrong.

imaround

Here you go

Well there you are then. What does she expect? She married into the British Royal Family and she is still speaking American, honestly she might have bothered to learn English!

Oh I hadn't thought of that Lexisgranny in that case better she remains a Duchess then.

Her native tongue isn't the problem Glorianny it's what she
lies about says.

Smileless2012

Her native tongue isn't the problem Glorianny it's what she
lies about says.

It obviously is to some Smileless2012

And some of her phrasing, what on earth does she mean when she talks about the ‘lens’ and the ‘optics’?

She seems to use a gobbledegook of words which mean nothing to the ordinary person.

Glorianny

imaround

Here you go

Well there you are then. What does she expect? She married into the British Royal Family and she is still speaking American, honestly she might have bothered to learn English!

You did not just say that? Americans speak English.

What the holy heck?