Duchess of Sussex the bullying has to stop.

Barmeyoldbat

It seems criticism is now classed as bullying.

When you criticise someone for something they've done or said it can fairly be assumed to be criticism.

But if you speculate about random rumours based on hearsay from "someone close to Meghan" or those that have known her in the past who have formed their own opinions about her depending on their subjective view, then constantly re-hashing all these speculative assumptions could be seen as bullying - or mobbing - a collaboration of individuals who want to harass and intimidate someone they don't approve of.

Criticising her for the now infamous Oprah interview, is one thing - it's there in black and white... but castigating her because someone in 'royal circles' thinks this, that or the other... or because those with an opinion about her formed from an association with her - possibly a loose association - offer their Two Penn'orth - is entirely different.

Anniebach

Only mothers feel emotional stress ? I disagree

Did I say "only" mothers? Don't think I did.

Only mothers feel emotional stress ? I disagree

Callistemon21

Meghan is an actress.
She must know that the show goes on.

Which is possibly why she agreed to the SA tour Callistemon21 I think you've just answered your own question about maternity leave
She then experienced conflict and emotional stress because she was a new mum. But god forbid she should ever talk about it.

Are some of you saying that fathers are not so emotionally invested in their children's welfare?
Can they compartmentalise?

What? What on earth does that mean?

(Its OK, I don't expect an answer.)

One can be an ambitious actress but an ambitious member of
the royal family !

VioletSky

Dickens

Which of course leads to the topic of the entire episode, how women are treated when they are ambitious. And the worst offenders? Other women.

This. Absolutely this.

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See posts following it for examples.

Meghan is an actress.
She must know that the show goes on.

It seems criticism is now classed as bullying.

Ambitious women are treated badly by men. I think it is an attack and an unwarranted one to say that women attack to a greater degree than men do. We are are own worst enemies.

Ambitious women ?

Dickens

^Which of course leads to the topic of the entire episode, how women are treated when they are ambitious. And the worst offenders? Other women.^

This. Absolutely this.

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Which of course leads to the topic of the entire episode, how women are treated when they are ambitious. And the worst offenders? Other women.

This. Absolutely this.

You are missing the point.

It doesn't matter who the mother is and why they chose to return to work so soon after having a baby. All mothers feel guilt. The conversation was about the guilt ambitious women feel when they work and have kids.

The conversation was not trying to raise drama about smoke/fire. It was not about if Archie was in the room. She was recognizing that, no matter who you are or what your background, women have an internal dialogue that causes guilt. They were bonding about shared circumstance as new mothers.

Instead of lifting each other up, as all women should be doing, people are tearing her down despite not bothering to listen to the dang conversation. I do not understand how anyone thinks they can have an opinion of a podcast when they never listened to the podcast.

Which of course leads to the topic of the entire episode, how women are treated when they are ambitious. And the worst offenders? Other women.

Tiny bit?

Some slack maybe?

Well, at least she's still in the limelight ?
That's what is important.

Just saying .....
Pointing out the obvious.

It must have been worrying but Archie wasn't in the room anyway.

That's a pretty tenuous hold onto Megan blaming Callistermon

We don't even know when her maternity leave began if she had it

She is still a person and a mum and hasn't done anything wrong by simply expressing her feelings about it...

Some slack maybe?

Our generation sold them the idea that they could have it all

That was Shirley Conran who then admitted she was wrong.
Many of us knew she was wrong.

It makes no difference - maternity leave is relatively generous compared to some countries. Deciding not to take advantage of it was Meghan's choice for whatever reason.
Other Royal mothers did so it wasn't because of pressure.

Most mothers who juggle don't have the security blanket of a nanny either.

Callistemon21

^Even though she knew her baby was safe, as a first time mom she was rattled and wanted to go get her baby. She could not because she had royal duties^

That's a pity because she would have been entitled to maternity leave, as are all Royal mothers, as Archie was only four months old.
Having chosen to go back to work earlier, then I suppose she felt obliged to fulfil her duties.

Does it really matter how or why she was there? The concerns women feel about their children and the conflict for young women between fulfilling their role as a mother and meeting the demands of work is something we should be talking about. Our generation sold them the idea that they could have it all. The least we can do is listen when they talk about how difficult the reality is.

Even though she knew her baby was safe, as a first time mom she was rattled and wanted to go get her baby. She could not because she had royal duties

That's a pity because she would have been entitled to maternity leave, as are all Royal mothers, as Archie was only four months old.
Having chosen to go back to work earlier, then I suppose she felt obliged to fulfil her duties.

The heater and the fire were the same thing. They way she described it was "there was a fire". But the point of the story had nothing to do with a fire. It had to do with being a scared mom when the potential of harm could have happened to her son.

It amuses me that people who can't even bother to bear to listen to the podcast get online and complain.

If this woman bothers you so much, turn it off?

Thanks imaround

That's completely understandable amd makes sense why she didn't speak of it until that moment

Where did the fire come into imaround? I haven’t listened to it because I’ve never ever listened to a podcast. I wouldn’t know where to start!?

We’re the heater and the fire different things then?