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Duchess of Sussex the bullying has to stop.

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Sago Fri 26-Aug-22 13:11:11

I don’t read the articles but see the headlines, the poor couple must be seriously damaged by the constant attention and criticism they are receiving.

I’m not a fan but enough is enough surely!

icanhandthemback Thu 01-Sept-22 19:21:18

So it’s just a string of amazing coincidences.

No, of course not but the timing is not down to MM. The media will use their interviews at a time that is right for them because it will sell more copy. However, when PP became ill after they had given the interview to Oprah, how likely do you think it was that the schedulers will have pulled it from their schedules?

eazybee Thu 01-Sept-22 19:02:50

So Meghan, and let us not forget Harry, planned, filmed and broadcast an extremely critical interview about the royal family knowing that a leading member, their 99 year old grandparent was critically ill and very unlikely to recover.
Such compassion.
Did they not think to ask if he was OK?

Norah Thu 01-Sept-22 18:56:02

Callistemon21

^I just failed to see the crash date as something she’d have memorised^

I fail to see that it is something of which Meghan is unaware.
She seems to be a loving wife and of course will be aware of one of the most formative events of Harry's life.

I did not say Meghan is unaware Harry's mum is dead and died in a car crash. I did say I failed to see the crash date as memorable.

Yes, formative and memorable for Harry.

I have no idea when she died, until it's upon us, in the news.

Calendargirl Thu 01-Sept-22 18:55:09

Just in case you need to learn how the process works

No thanks, I’ll pass on that, and remain in blissful ignorance.

tickingbird Thu 01-Sept-22 18:50:58

From what I’ve just heard Americans are losing their fascination with her. She hasn’t done herself any favours with the Mandela story. Surely she must realise the press will dig into such porkies?

Incidentally Imaround are you a member of her PR team or just her biggest fan? grin

merlotgran Thu 01-Sept-22 18:40:31

imaround

Sorry, but the editor and publisher decide when a magazine article will be published. Not the author nor the person being interviewed.

Just in case you need to learn how the process works: www.encyclopedia.com/media/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/magazine-industry-production-process

CBS decided when the interview was going to air. Meghan did not go to Oprah and say hey? Prince Philip is going to die in a few days we should run that interview on TV.

Rumors of an interview started in November 2020. In January 2021, the rumors intensified. CBS confirmed the rumors of an interview on February 15th 2021.

Prince Philip was admitted to the hospital on Feb 16th. The Palace reported: “The Duke’s admission is a precautionary measure, on the advice of His Royal Highness’s Doctor, after feeling unwell.

“The Duke is expected to remain in hospital for a few days of observation and rest."

Oprah's interview aired on March 7th on CBS

On March 16th, it was reported that Prince Philip was successfully treated and was returning home.

Prince Philip died April 9th, a full month after the interview. Not a few days, not shorty before. A month.

So no, Meghan did not plan the interview in order to hurt the royal family surrounding Prince Phillips death.

FWIW, my grandmother died when I was 13 years old. All I remember is it was October. I was her favorite grandchild.

I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when Princess Diana died. I never remember the day until the media tells me it is coming.

So it’s just a string of amazing coincidences.

Must be a world record.

imaround Thu 01-Sept-22 18:24:05

Sorry, but the editor and publisher decide when a magazine article will be published. Not the author nor the person being interviewed.

Just in case you need to learn how the process works: www.encyclopedia.com/media/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/magazine-industry-production-process

CBS decided when the interview was going to air. Meghan did not go to Oprah and say hey? Prince Philip is going to die in a few days we should run that interview on TV.

Rumors of an interview started in November 2020. In January 2021, the rumors intensified. CBS confirmed the rumors of an interview on February 15th 2021.

Prince Philip was admitted to the hospital on Feb 16th. The Palace reported: “The Duke’s admission is a precautionary measure, on the advice of His Royal Highness’s Doctor, after feeling unwell.

“The Duke is expected to remain in hospital for a few days of observation and rest."

Oprah's interview aired on March 7th on CBS

On March 16th, it was reported that Prince Philip was successfully treated and was returning home.

Prince Philip died April 9th, a full month after the interview. Not a few days, not shorty before. A month.

So no, Meghan did not plan the interview in order to hurt the royal family surrounding Prince Phillips death.

FWIW, my grandmother died when I was 13 years old. All I remember is it was October. I was her favorite grandchild.

I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when Princess Diana died. I never remember the day until the media tells me it is coming.

Callistemon21 Thu 01-Sept-22 18:19:37

I just failed to see the crash date as something she’d have memorised

I fail to see that it is something of which Meghan is unaware.
She seems to be a loving wife and of course will be aware of one of the most formative events of Harry's life.

merlotgran Thu 01-Sept-22 18:18:49

Maybe the Queen uses one of Bruce Forsyth’s catch phrases with whichever GC offers to walk the corgis or put a new battery in the TV remote.

You’re My Favourite!

Calendargirl Thu 01-Sept-22 18:15:20

If Harry ever was ‘the favourite GS’, I would imagine the last couple of years have made the Queen think again.

Anniebach Thu 01-Sept-22 16:57:00

I was told by someone who knows the royals personally,
the Queen is very close to her first grandchild Peter Phillips

MawtheMerrier Thu 01-Sept-22 16:51:03

There has (always, as far as I know) been a convention of announcements by members of the RF not being released on the same day. This would have been coordinated by their respective Communications Secretaries as a courtesy.
So, for instance, Meghan’s announcement of her pregnancy should not have been released to clash with (even overshadow?) Eugenie’s wedding day.
Meghan also contrived to “muscle in” on Camilla’s important address on violence against women despite undertaking not to “compete” with it. It was reported that Camilla felt her trust was betrayed as she delivered a speech on domestic violence, a subject she’s long been passionate about and it was felt Meghan had broken a pledge not to overshadow Camilla's campaign by having the pictures of her private visit to the National Theatre be published the same day.
Little things perhaps but “team players” abide by the rules , in this case out of courtesy.
There has been a lot of focus on the Queen staying on at Balmoral and the appointment of a new PM, but H and M “cannot” fly up to visit her in what seem to the rest of us to be her declining years. So is it all about Meghan again?
I think many Grans on GN would be very disappointed under similar circumstances and wonder why H who was said to be her “favourite GS” should be so apparently cool and distant.
Just saying.

Chestnut Thu 01-Sept-22 16:34:33

volver

I am totally astounded that adult women are sniggering like naughty teenagers about a magazine called The Cut.

No idea what you're talking about. Who is sniggering and where?

Jaberwok Thu 01-Sept-22 16:28:57

Which adult women? No one on here,unless I've missed it have eluded to anything, as for elsewhere? I really wouldn't know, but I haven't read anything sniggery at all anywhere. Meghan apparently thought the RF were exaggerating P.P's illness in order to prevent the Oprah interview , soon afterwards P.P died. Ummm! Again apparently they both adored him. Odd way to behave towards someone you adore, and mightily cruel to HM. But there you go,we all have different standards.

Calendargirl Thu 01-Sept-22 16:18:26

I just failed to see the crash date as something she’d have memorised

And this year being the 25th anniversary of her death?

I should imagine the date is engraved on Harry (and William’s) heart, not literally of course, and am jolly sure Meghan and Catherine also, are very aware of the date, and what it means to their respective husbands.

Of course Meghan knew the date.

volver Thu 01-Sept-22 16:04:06

I am totally astounded that adult women are sniggering like naughty teenagers about a magazine called The Cut.

merlotgran Thu 01-Sept-22 15:49:56

imaround

Spotify, not Meghan chose the date of the podcast release.

The Cut, not Meghan, chose the date of the release of the article.

I have already given you the definition of the word optics.

You people are simply ridiculous in wanting Meghan to be the bad guy so badly that you think she has enough power to dictate what large corporations do.

Everyone needs a villain I suppose.

Official engagements to be undertaken by members of the Royal Family are published up to eight weeks in advance.

All available online.

We people are not so naive as to believe Meghan and her PR team have no say in the release dates of podcasts and articles.

We’d actually rather not have a villain. We’d rather wish she’d change the record and stop firing shots at the royal family.

Chestnut Thu 01-Sept-22 15:33:40

imaround

Chestnut

Some here are very naïve to think that Meghan does not realise what she is doing. She is a very intelligent woman and very media savvy, and is fully aware of the royal calendar. There have been numerous occasions in the past where she has released something to coincide with a royal event. Even the Oprah interview went out shortly before the DofE died. How could anyone be so cruel as to say all those dreadful things while the Queen was going through that.

Did you just accuse her of orchestrating the Oprah interview because she knew he was going to die in a few days?

He was very ill and the family were going through an anxious time, especially the Queen. I'm not saying she knew he was going to die, how could she? But her actions were unkind.

Norah Thu 01-Sept-22 15:30:22

imaround

Chestnut

Some here are very naïve to think that Meghan does not realise what she is doing. She is a very intelligent woman and very media savvy, and is fully aware of the royal calendar. There have been numerous occasions in the past where she has released something to coincide with a royal event. Even the Oprah interview went out shortly before the DofE died. How could anyone be so cruel as to say all those dreadful things while the Queen was going through that.

Did you just accuse her of orchestrating the Oprah interview because she knew he was going to die in a few days?

Written as such.

Norah Thu 01-Sept-22 15:27:48

I just looked, I was 18 when JFK died. I don't remember that date at all. My recollection is fall after I had a baby.

This is all down to me, I'm not one for dates.

As I posted, I'm not a Meghan fan, I just failed to see the crash date as something she'd have memorized. Obviously I'm wrong.

NotSpaghetti Thu 01-Sept-22 15:26:13

eazybee I think you are wrong.
I couldn't have even guessed the month, let alone the date! I'm sure my husband has no idea.
I will ask my adult children (same age as Harry/Meghan and see if they have any idea.

Some people (like me) ard totally useless with dates!
I know it wasn't winter but other than that - no idea.

imaround Thu 01-Sept-22 15:24:34

Chestnut

Some here are very naïve to think that Meghan does not realise what she is doing. She is a very intelligent woman and very media savvy, and is fully aware of the royal calendar. There have been numerous occasions in the past where she has released something to coincide with a royal event. Even the Oprah interview went out shortly before the DofE died. How could anyone be so cruel as to say all those dreadful things while the Queen was going through that.

Did you just accuse her of orchestrating the Oprah interview because she knew he was going to die in a few days?

eazybee Thu 01-Sept-22 15:16:28

I think most people alive at that time (M was 16) remember the date and the year, as they do with President Kennedy's assassination,(I was 17) and Harry certainly commemorates it each year.

Callistemon21 Thu 01-Sept-22 15:15:35

Perhaps Harry forgot to mention it to her.

Norah Thu 01-Sept-22 15:15:33

It may be that I am totally alone in not noting dates, and assuming others are the same.

Noted for future reference.

I'm not a Meghan fan, I just see no reason to pillory her.