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Duchess of Sussex the bullying has to stop.

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Sago Fri 26-Aug-22 13:11:11

I don’t read the articles but see the headlines, the poor couple must be seriously damaged by the constant attention and criticism they are receiving.

I’m not a fan but enough is enough surely!

annsixty Thu 01-Sept-22 09:05:20

A friend of mine ,now dead, and I, had a phrase for people who we considered behaved like a bully or came across as overstepping the mark..
I am so pleased she isn’t my DiL/ Dd’s MiL.
I am so pleased MM isn’t my DiL.

tickingbird Thu 01-Sept-22 08:49:54

Meghan is not being bullied. However, she, herself, is a bully. She has a history of bullying and treating people badly. This goes back way before she married Harry.

As someone who was mildly pro H & M I’ve definitely moved into the anti camp. Personally, I have a pretty low opinion of this proven liar and if I wish to say so I will. It’s not bullying, it’s not racism it’s my view; much the same as the views openly expressed about Boris and anyone else in the public eye.

Elegran Thu 01-Sept-22 08:25:03

Life is not a stage for personality duels.

Elegran Thu 01-Sept-22 08:23:50

Chestnut

And all this poop hitting the fan on the 25th anniversary of Diana's death, when I'm sure Harry (and the rest of us) would rather remember in a quiet and reflective way. But no, Meghan has to compete with Diana for the headlines, even today. Her timing is always precise, and intended to knock the royals off the front page. It happens every time.

I think the first sentence of Chestnut's post is the answer to your serious question, imaround. Diana's death, and the pain it caused in her family (yes, to all of them, despite the wild conspiracy theories) should not be used as a trigger for Meghan's PR staff to make a marketing move.

BlueBalou Thu 01-Sept-22 06:48:38

icanhandthemback

BlueBalou

Apparently Meghan has given an interview stating it ‘…takes a lot to forgive…’
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62717696
I’m afraid that for me it doesn’t come across well but I can’t put my finger on why.
I think she’s disingenuous.

You left out the, "The duchess responded: "I think forgiveness is really important. It takes a lot more energy to not forgive." Do you not think that you might make you look disingenuous too?

Absolutely not disingenuous on my part, I was directly quoting from the article in the Telegraph.
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imaround Thu 01-Sept-22 02:50:36

The rain cleared out and I took my walk and listened to this weeks episode. It was really good! Better than last week. I highly recommend listening to it.

They spoke of growing up mixed race in the US and how the word DIVA had changed from meaning a goddess like soprano to, mid century, it changing to a negative connotation regarding women.

During the interview itself she mentioned herself twice. Once she mentioned her dress covered in dog hair and twice about growing up identifying as mixed race and then having to identify as a black woman when she married Harry.

I understand it because there is a problem in the US where mixed race people are not accepted by either the white or black communities.

She did have a monologue at the end, but that is normal in a podcast and Mariah Carey was long gone.

Next week is Mindy Kaling, another guest I am excited about. She lives life on her own terms and does not apologize for anything.

imaround Thu 01-Sept-22 02:28:24

Dang it, I just looked at the flavors and they have lemon raspberry right now.

imaround Thu 01-Sept-22 02:24:43

The best one the make, IMO Dickens, is the red velvet. They also make seasonal ones. The often have lemon in the summer that I love.

Problem is that I have no self control so I will eat the mini bundtlet in one sitting. blush

Summerlove Thu 01-Sept-22 01:45:05

imaround

The New York post is considered a rag magazine. I would liken it to the tabloids in the UK. We in the US do not take their journalism seriously.

Not sure on her popularity in the US. I rarely speak of her in my circles to be honest. No one I know is gushing. One thing is certain we could care less if she is royal or not. We had a tea party years ago what started us down a path of no Monarchy.

Can I ask a serious question though? If the Royal family is not marking Diana's death and William and Harry are not marking her death, why is the timing of her podcast such an affront?

She did not pick the release date for her podcast. Spotify gets to do all that. It is very likely that Spotify did so because it coincides with Diana's death, but no one really knows for sure.

because….reasons. ??‍♀️

imaround Thu 01-Sept-22 00:57:30

I should say publicly marking her death.

Dickens Thu 01-Sept-22 00:56:14

imaround

Also, now I want cake. We have a company called Nothing Bundt Cakes that make mini Bundt cakes that are to die for! I may go and get me one later and do an extra walk this week.

Oddly, I was looking at recipes for doing Bundt cake in the microwave (in a mug!) earlier today!

How about a 'Snickerdoodle' flavour smile? Nothing But Bundt is online!

imaround Thu 01-Sept-22 00:54:39

The New York post is considered a rag magazine. I would liken it to the tabloids in the UK. We in the US do not take their journalism seriously.

Not sure on her popularity in the US. I rarely speak of her in my circles to be honest. No one I know is gushing. One thing is certain we could care less if she is royal or not. We had a tea party years ago what started us down a path of no Monarchy.

Can I ask a serious question though? If the Royal family is not marking Diana's death and William and Harry are not marking her death, why is the timing of her podcast such an affront?

She did not pick the release date for her podcast. Spotify gets to do all that. It is very likely that Spotify did so because it coincides with Diana's death, but no one really knows for sure.

Limcha Thu 01-Sept-22 00:41:53

Chestnut

Now it seems her bubble has burst. The USA are getting fed up with her whinging about her worries from a huge mansion with 16 bathroom, and then about being a victim of the Royal Family, when most of them are struggling with fuel bills and cost of living.

I wouldn’t use the NY Post of all “publications” to use as an example of the USA being “fed up” with Meghan. She is generally well liked here, and the Post is a right-wing tabloid that is basically amongst the least reputable sources of “news” in the States. It’s a Rupert Murdoch owned, Trump-supporting, Republican loving, frequently racist, xenophobic waste of tree.

nanna8 Thu 01-Sept-22 00:35:44

I like that front page, Chestnut. Very nasty but well deserved. Imagine the comments if one of the British papers had issued it !

Dickens Thu 01-Sept-22 00:14:56

Lexisgranny

Calendargirl neither do I, not Meghan alone, she is not important enough, but there seems to be more criticism now of the Royal Family in general than there has been for a while. Then think about the economic state that the country is in, and how bad it is likely to become for many people who are already struggling, and how soon before comparisons are made with the comfortable existence of the Royals, including Meghan and Harry. Republicans will have their arguments strengthened.

I agree with your comments about Harry, he obviously seems to love Meghan very much, but I don’t think things are panning out the way he had hoped, he just doesn’t look happy.

If the couple are managing to do anything - they are shoring up support for the Queen and the tradition of Monarchy, which is obvious from comments from so many who feel protective of it.

I am a Republican - a languid one, we are not necessarily a homogenous group. I've no desire to see them suddenly or violently 'toppled'. We've had periods of economic stability and a Monarchy existing together. I am quite happy to let 'nature' take its course and for the Monarchy to dissolve in an 'organic' way, and Charles has taken the first step by slimming down The Firm.

The institution is representative of hierarchy and privilege, however I believe the anger and resentment felt by so many (and I bet not a few are Monarchists also) will be directed at oil producers / suppliers, and a government who - whilst not responsible for the huge price hike in the gas market - have done precious little to mitigate the effects, and it is within their remit to do so, and who, indeed, are absent from their posts at a time of looming national crisis.

Meghan and Harry have most definitely not strengthened my argument as a Republican in any way - they are, as you say, not important enough. Flawed and immature as I personally think they both are, I really don't bear them ill will.

As for Harry - sometimes he looks happy, sometimes he doesn't And sometimes, he just looks 'serious'. He's now a married man and I think that's just how it works, expectations are not always met.

Chestnut Thu 01-Sept-22 00:14:34

And all this poop hitting the fan on the 25th anniversary of Diana's death, when I'm sure Harry (and the rest of us) would rather remember in a quiet and reflective way. But no, Meghan has to compete with Diana for the headlines, even today. Her timing is always precise, and intended to knock the royals off the front page. It happens every time.

imaround Thu 01-Sept-22 00:13:02

Did you listen to the podcast? it was not 50 minute talk about evil Brits and the RF.

Kamiso Wed 31-Aug-22 23:59:23

Farzanah

It amazes me that such interest and emotion is stirred, by a couple whom most of us will never meet and have only very superficial knowledge of, mostly secondhand from often unreliable sources.

The latest “news” came directly out of Meghan’s mouth even down to likening her situation to Nelson Mandela’s. It was a 50 minute talk about the evil Brits and Royal Family and about 8 minutes on Selena and the trials of motherhood.

Harry did pop in to tell Selena her hair looked nice apparently.

Chestnut Wed 31-Aug-22 23:57:39

Now it seems her bubble has burst. The USA are getting fed up with her whinging about her worries from a huge mansion with 16 bathroom, and then about being a victim of the Royal Family, when most of them are struggling with fuel bills and cost of living.

Chestnut Wed 31-Aug-22 23:48:00

merlotgran

^Meghan recalls a moment from the 2019 London premiere of the live-action version of The Lion King. 'I just had Archie. It was such a cruel chapter. I was scared to go out.' A cast member from South Africa pulled her aside. 'He looked at me, and he's just like light. He said, "I just need you to know: When you married into this family, we rejoiced in the streets the same we did when Mandela was freed from prison^." '

However, it now appears that the only South African cast member has said that he has never met Meghan and was not at the UK premier.

Another delusion to add to her list? ?

That Mandela quote has angered a lot of people. She is a very clever woman who knows these comments will be picked up by the press, and yet she doesn't seem to realise how desperate and daft they sound. She is losing her grip and the cracks in her public profile are beginning to show.

imaround Wed 31-Aug-22 23:19:31

Also, now I want cake. We have a company called Nothing Bundt Cakes that make mini Bundt cakes that are to die for! I may go and get me one later and do an extra walk this week.

imaround Wed 31-Aug-22 23:17:35

Yes I did need to calm down. I have no idea why I had such an immense reaction and I can hope that she was being sarcastic. Even if she was not, it does not affect me at all

It would be easy to see how someone on GN would not be sarcastic though due to countless threads that border on xenophobia due to new Americanized words infiltrating the UK and the vitriol towards Meghan, an American.

Like I said, I could care less about Meghan because I do not know her or Harry. I did think her first podcast episode was good though. I have her second one queued up for tonight's walk, though I am hearing thunder.

Dickens Wed 31-Aug-22 23:15:50

imaround

She uses words that mean nothing to those in the UK. Here in the US, we understand exactly what she means. Which is good since her podcast and article are released in the US on US platforms for US audiences.

shock

I've heard the word "optics" used here in the UK during business meetings, and in presentations, on more than one occasion.

I can't believe no one else has!

Callistemon21 Wed 31-Aug-22 23:08:40

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Dickens Wed 31-Aug-22 23:05:59

VioletSky

Also I really like the way they say aluminium... makes it sound much less boring

For me, the only time aluminium isn't boring is when it's wrapped around a huge slice of Christmas or birthday cake smile