Duchess of Sussex the bullying has to stop.

Well there you are then. What does she expect? She married into the British Royal Family and she is still speaking American, honestly she might have bothered to learn English!

It's truly a disgrace!!! ?

Elegran

There are the same reactions, but in the opposite direction, to anyone attempting to inject any fact that doesn't shed a good light onto the Sussexes. a similar echo of "If you don't believe they are ill-treated by these horrible people you are pro-abuse of coloured people" etc etc

Polarisation - if you are not for them, you are against them.

Polarisation - that's the word I was looking for in my addled brain.

There are the same reactions, but in the opposite direction, to anyone attempting to inject any fact that doesn't shed a good light onto the Sussexes.

Facts are facts. The Oprah interview is a fact. The conversation has been recorded.

My 'beef' is not with facts but with editorials like this:

Meghan Markle turned 40 yesterday and shared a video with actress Melissa McCarthy to mark the occasion. In the two-minute-long video, the Duchess of Sussex launches a new initiative, 40x40, to support women returning to the workplace by asking mentors to give 40 minutes of their time. But the concept has been branded a "publicity stunt" by a leading female mentor - with a royal expert also hitting out at Meghan for "mocking the Queen" in the clip.

A "leading female mentor" and a "royal expert" - giving a subjective opinion which is then pounced on by some, and presented as 'fact'.

The royal family itself has in the past been subjected to this kind of speculation by these various 'mentors' of something or other and the, seemingly many, 'royal experts'.

That is what I take issue with - coupled with the immature name-calling by some. Far worse of course on some other social media sites than on here.

imaround

Calm down, don't get upset- we all know that American English and American spellings are the original and correct forms of English as taken over by the Pilgrim Fathers et al!

Although I don't think optics were invented in 1620.

My rellies are Aussies, they don't speak English English either, but. ?

VioletSky

I had read that as sarcasm?

It was sarcasm right?

glorianny?

So did I ?

I had read that as sarcasm?

It was sarcasm right?

glorianny?

Glorianny

imaround

Glorianny

imaround

Here you go

Well there you are then. What does she expect? She married into the British Royal Family and she is still speaking American, honestly she might have bothered to learn English!

You did not just say that? Americans speak English.

What the holy heck?

Not as far as optics goes. 2 different definitions.

And she used the North American meaning, as I pointed out with the definition. For her podcast and article published in North America.

I have a lot of respect for American English making much more sense phonetically.

Changing all the spellings would be the first thing I'd do too when founding my own country. Its on the bucket list.

Also I really like the way they say aluminium... makes it sound much less boring

Literally for the love of all that is holy, I have never been more angry at a post on GN before. I was amused by the disdain of Megan before. I could care less either way about her because I do not know her.

But this post just, wow. What an insult to the Americans. Apparently, we need to learn "real" English. Because American English is not up to snuff, even though her podcast and article were publish IN America and not for Queen's English speakers like yourself.

I am not even going to bother reporting your rude post. I think people should see who you are in your own words.

I am walking away before I say something that will get me banned.

imaround

Glorianny

imaround

Here you go

Well there you are then. What does she expect? She married into the British Royal Family and she is still speaking American, honestly she might have bothered to learn English!

You did not just say that? Americans speak English.

What the holy heck?

Not as far as optics goes. 2 different definitions.

There's one poster in particular on GN who talks about "optics" all the time. Maybe she'll come along and help us out.

Glorianny

imaround

Here you go

Well there you are then. What does she expect? She married into the British Royal Family and she is still speaking American, honestly she might have bothered to learn English!

You did not just say that? Americans speak English.

What the holy heck?

Smileless2012

Her native tongue isn't the problem Glorianny it's what she
lies about says.

It obviously is to some Smileless2012

And some of her phrasing, what on earth does she mean when she talks about the ‘lens’ and the ‘optics’?

She seems to use a gobbledegook of words which mean nothing to the ordinary person.

Her native tongue isn't the problem Glorianny it's what she
lies about says.

Oh I hadn't thought of that Lexisgranny in that case better she remains a Duchess then.

imaround

Here you go

Well there you are then. What does she expect? She married into the British Royal Family and she is still speaking American, honestly she might have bothered to learn English!

Callistemon, Merlotgran. I sincerely hope you are both right about Charles, I honestly would be pleased to be proved wrong.

Yes and he sticks to his guns.

I think that the Royal Family as a whole is in dire need of reforming, getting rid of it’s dated rules and outlook. I cannot see that Charles will ever be strong enough to do this, and (if there is still a monarchy when Charles dies) this will be up to William

I think that Charles is a reformer and many of the changes which have happened in recent years are at his instigation.

Smileless I think that the problem in removing the Dukedom is that it would make Meghan’s title Princess Henry, just like Princess Michael. Inevitably the ‘Henry’ bit would not be understood by many outside this country and she would inevitably become Princess Meghan, which, again to many, would sound a more senior status than a Duchess.

Calendargirl neither do I, not Meghan alone, she is not important enough, but there seems to be more criticism now of the Royal Family in general than there has been for a while. Then think about the economic state that the country is in, and how bad it is likely to become for many people who are already struggling, and how soon before comparisons are made with the comfortable existence of the Royals, including Meghan and Harry. Republicans will have their arguments strengthened.

I agree with your comments about Harry, he obviously seems to love Meghan very much, but I don’t think things are panning out the way he had hoped, he just doesn’t look happy.

That's what I don't understand merlotgran. She's not stupid and yet the stories she comes out with are so easily disproved.

The wedding before the wedding and now this supposed conversation with a cast member of The Lion King. Accusations against unnamed members of the RF. The latest in the Cut magazine article about how 'they' could pick and choose which duties to undertake.

It would be better if they had their titles taken away from them. A shame for Harry but let's be honest, the interest in Meghan is that she's a Duchess and without her title, surely there would be less interest.

I don’t think Meghan will bring down the monarchy.

Wallis Simpson, another American divorcee, didn’t, over 80 years ago, and that was in relation to the actual King. To be fair, I think Wallis would have got out if she could, but she was in too deep.

Harry must really lie awake at night and wonder how they ended up as they are.

I cannot believe he is happy how things have turned out, not gone according to Meg’s plan at all.

I think that the Royal Family as a whole is in dire need of reforming, getting rid of it’s dated rules and outlook. I cannot see that Charles will ever be strong enough to do this, and (if there is still a monarchy when Charles dies) this will be up to William. For the time being maybe they should scrap the ‘don’t complain, don’t explain’ mantra, which is now nonsense anyway following the odd official comments that are thrown out now and again, and either speak out or shut up.

However………

Harry, who admitted, suffered a terrible trauma at a young age (as did his brother!) had a, shall we say, protected career in the army, and then was supported financially by the Duchy of Cornwall via his father. He is now approaching 40 and it’s about time he supported his family without resorting to bemoaning his lot, talking about his mother and making veiled references to the RF.

Meghan, on the other hand is an intelligent woman ( though she did not get a high enough mark to pass the Foreign Service Officer Test) who earned a high salary, was very ambitious and is totally convinced that she is right about most things. Now over 40 she no doubt feels she has not yet earned the recognition that she craves.

I obviously agree that they need to have a roof over their heads, but does it need to be such a large one which must cost a tremendous amount in upkeep? Do they have to make a living trading on their Royal connections? For a couple who were craving privacy, is it good for their (much spoken of) mental health, to be so bitter, are these constant references in interviews etc really cathartic, or should they try to move on?

There are rights and wrongs on both sides, but the way things are going (plus the Prince Andrew problem) I really think that this situation could bring down the Monarchy. I know that there are those on this platform who would think this to be a good thing, but I am not so sure. One thing I do think is that if the Monarchy goes, so will the “good life” for the Sussexes.

LRavenscroft

Personally I don't feel the Duchess of Sussex does herself any favours. In her recent interview with The Cut magazine in the US, she is still going on about how she was treated in the Royal House. I am not sure what she wishes to achieve by this, but, from my perspective, each action she takes adds more to what I believe to be her narcissistic profile. We have yet to see how this pans out, but, if asked, I would say she is suffering with narcissistic rage as she was unable to be in the role she imagined for herself.

Exactly. After being at the receiving end of someone who is a narcissist and suffers with a personality disorder many years ago, IMHO, Meghan has some traits of narcissism.
That weird looking guy -Scobie is one of her 'flying monkeys'.

Meghan recalls a moment from the 2019 London premiere of the live-action version of The Lion King. 'I just had Archie. It was such a cruel chapter. I was scared to go out.' A cast member from South Africa pulled her aside. 'He looked at me, and he's just like light. He said, "I just need you to know: When you married into this family, we rejoiced in the streets the same we did when Mandela was freed from prison." '

However, it now appears that the only South African cast member has said that he has never met Meghan and was not at the UK premier.

Another delusion to add to her list? ?