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BlueBelle Sat 10-Sept-22 15:18:48

No it’s not a thread about a particular thread but in the last few days we ve had two threads removed, people with stories wanting either advice or sympathy or both
One was fairly obviously the other not so much and it involved a lot of people giving heartfelt feelings and well thought out advice taking time and effort to offer links organisations to help etc it could have involved posters empathising by offering their own stories I don’t think it did

This post is mainly to help new member or those that don’t post much who may think we re a hard lot
We aren’t a hard lot but we do need to make sure we are not taken advantage of and taken the ‘p’ out of

Just be aware some people do seem to get a kick out of doing this

Lyng17 Tue 13-Sept-22 18:50:33

CanadianGran

I guess I am either a bit naive or believe in the best of people. To me both posts seemed real enough, but it seems to me that some here assumes it is put on for entertainment, then others join in and ridicule the poster. It just seems mean spirited to me.

There was recently a discussion about this site being a bit bullying, and I admit I am starting to see it. I still maintain that if you have no helpful info to give, or interesting conversation to engage in, then just don’t comment. Some of these posts turn into attacks of the OP. no wonder they don’t return.

I couldn't agree more. The way some speak to others is often rude and belittling. There are about 4 or 5 who do it regularly.

nanna8 Sun 11-Sept-22 06:26:04

Sometimes ( quite often) I feel suspicious of certain threads but then, as others say, your answers may help someone else in genuine need. If they are sick enough to make stuff up then they probably do need help but of a different kind!

CanadianGran Sun 11-Sept-22 05:57:25

I guess I am either a bit naive or believe in the best of people. To me both posts seemed real enough, but it seems to me that some here assumes it is put on for entertainment, then others join in and ridicule the poster. It just seems mean spirited to me.

There was recently a discussion about this site being a bit bullying, and I admit I am starting to see it. I still maintain that if you have no helpful info to give, or interesting conversation to engage in, then just don’t comment. Some of these posts turn into attacks of the OP. no wonder they don’t return.

BlueBelle Sun 11-Sept-22 05:26:39

This is not a thread about a thread was my title of choice because it is a discussion about threads in general dorothy
I personally don’t understand the rule from HQ or why they seem to believe we are not clever enough to make our own decisions as to what to discuss
I see no good reason we can’t discuss problems within threads how else do we learn, it has always seemed very heavy handed
to me
I believe there were two very nasty ones a few years back Jennifer and really affected some posters and to be honest instead of smacking wrists for things like discussing threads admin should have looked at those suspicious threads much sooner warning bells had been raised by posters but they went on for a long time That is why I started this thread and thankfully I think we ve had a sensible discussion so far

DorothyGlamour Sun 11-Sept-22 00:38:45

If we have to follow rules that say we can't discuss another thread on this thread, and have to show the title as " Not a thread about a thread" to stay under the radar, no wonder there are folk setting up tall tales and sitting around giggling in their wine.

JenniferEccles Sat 10-Sept-22 23:46:38

As BlueBelle* has said the worst type of hoaxes are where a false character and lifestyle is created and built up with regular posts over several months before the character is allegedly ‘killed’ in some tragic accident.
There was a particularly nasty, elaborate one a few years ago.

It was horrible to think of some sick individual presumably laughing at all the upset comments from posters before it was apparent that it was all a hoax.

kircubbin2000 Sat 10-Sept-22 22:01:10

Yes, I didn't realise the crime one was fake.The food one was a few weeks ago.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 10-Sept-22 21:53:05

Yes, several troll accounts were created.

BlueBelle Sat 10-Sept-22 21:50:06

I didn’t know more had been taken down in the last few days GSM quite a little spate then

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 10-Sept-22 21:42:16

I think Kircubbin was talking about another thread by a banned poster. I know the one she means and who it was,

BlueBelle Sat 10-Sept-22 21:31:24

I don’t understand your post Kircubbin Neither were about food ???

kircubbin2000 Sat 10-Sept-22 21:26:26

I didn't see a problem with the food advice thread. No matter who posted it or why some good advice was given.

BlueBelle Sat 10-Sept-22 20:55:47

I loved that film Fleur my friend who I went with hated it . Strange we have so much in common but obviously not that?

Callistemon21 Sat 10-Sept-22 20:40:37

Riverwalk

I agree Urmston and that's why I rarely engage in 'drama' threads and obvious fake threads, of which there have been many.

I'll make a factual statement or give advice if I can help on something I know about as a nurse, but I don't engage further, unless of course it's a regular poster.

Some are very plausible.

Fleurpepper Sat 10-Sept-22 20:28:48

Neither did I - been out all afternoon and this evening.

Great film btw. 'Where the crawdogs sing'.

BlueBelle Sat 10-Sept-22 20:26:12

Why do people in there 50s/60s/70s/80s have to worry about being ‘in trouble’
I personally think it does matter and agree with Urmston it would irritate me mad if I d gone to the trouble of looking things up, passing on links etc while someone is sitting giggling in their glass of wine We ve had threads in the past where people have made out they’ve lost family members in tragic circumstances only to find out we ve been laughed at for our empathy and love and I think that is hard to take I know some grans were very very upset by them
But of course you’re right the information given could be valuable for someone else but that’s not really the point

I didn’t comment on the longer thread as I had a really bad feeling about it from the beginning

Just for the record I didn’t report either thread

Delila Sat 10-Sept-22 20:06:33

I agree with you Lauranorderr. I wrote to Gransnet asking them to reconsider for the reasons you’ve given, but too late.

It didn’t really matter whether it was a hoax or not, or how serious or minor the “crime” was, sound and compassionate advice was given which might well have been helpful to others. Nobody was harmed.

I suppose we’ll be in trouble for mentioning another thread, but hey-ho hmm

Fleurpepper Sat 10-Sept-22 19:21:37

Millie22

The poster asking for advice on a legal matter seemed a little suspect to me from the start. But there was loads of advice from people wanting to help which could be of benefit to others.

It's unpleasant but people often just make stuff up.

I didn't get involved in that thread, and I must say was surprised to see so much support expressed, as none of us had any idea of how serious the crime was, and it did feel somewhat strange.

Riverwalk Sat 10-Sept-22 19:04:12

I agree Urmston and that's why I rarely engage in 'drama' threads and obvious fake threads, of which there have been many.

I'll make a factual statement or give advice if I can help on something I know about as a nurse, but I don't engage further, unless of course it's a regular poster.

Urmstongran Sat 10-Sept-22 18:55:34

It would irritate the hell out of me to think I’ve been taken for a ride. Sorry.

Millie22 Sat 10-Sept-22 18:50:40

The poster asking for advice on a legal matter seemed a little suspect to me from the start. But there was loads of advice from people wanting to help which could be of benefit to others.

It's unpleasant but people often just make stuff up.

NotSpaghetti Sat 10-Sept-22 18:42:04

I'm another who would rather try to be helpful to a fake than leave someone potentially in distress.

I honestly don't feel scammed by some fake poster. It seems sad to me to be truthful. I've only lost a few minutes of my time after all.

LauraNorderr Sat 10-Sept-22 18:36:50

How do we know that a previously banned poster was involved?
And does it really matter if the advice given might be useful to others?

Sago Sat 10-Sept-22 18:25:32

I agree with GSM there are some posters who feed of these illicit threads.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 10-Sept-22 18:22:55

It is a good place to come to unless, as was the case, you are a previously banned poster who is making up a story to elicit sympathy. A genuine poster has nothing to fear.