The age of those flocking to see the cortege of the Queen and to the lying in state.

Eloethan I do think the word "hysteria" is totally inappropriate as is the suggestion that these people are not doing exactly what they each, individually, are choosing to do.

Going back to the OP, we are spending a disproportionate amount of time on Britain/the UK becoming a republic. At best we seem to be talking about the views of only a quarter of the population. I imagine that has dropped with what most would see as the reminders just what they have done for our country (while being human, of course).

As I posted previously, there is a lot of support for the monarchy in each age group, barring the 18-24s who come closer. Young people are generally caught-up with their own lives, so I don't find it surprising. When asked "should we continue with the monarch, or should we have an elected Head of State instead" this group answered about a third/a third/a third. The "continue" group being slightly higher than the "elected" group, and the "don't knows" being the highest. In all other age groups, the "continue" groups were well ahead.

I do wonder what we are discussing here, although I would happily agree that has been wonderful to see the turnout of all the age-groups both to say thank you to someone who gave a lifetime of service and to enjoy being part of our history. I can see nothing wrong with that and a great deal that is right.

I know, from speaking to friends who are not monarchists, that some people are attending various events because there has been so much coverage throughout the media that they feel such a historic occasion should not be missed, especially in terms of their children's memories.

Personally, I think the coverage has been excessive and the messages that come up on my phone from various organisations expressing their condolences strike me as surplus to requirements.

As for people waiting in line for up to nine hours, I really do not understand this mass hysteria.

We already have a huge backlog of treatment in the NHS and yet no appointments will proceed on Monday, even for patients with potentially life threatening conditions who have already had significant delays in diagnosis and treatment. Apparently Centre Parcs have told people who are staying with them that there will be virtually no amenities available to them on Monday and, worse still, people who are booked in for Monday will now have to start their holiday on Tuesday. How can this be justified?

I can’t get to London, so I went I into Paris today, to sign the book of condolence. I felt is was the least I could do but the return trip from door to door, didn’t take as much time those queuing to Westminster Hall.

That was the Scouts, Big Louis, and they are doing an amazing job as well as being a good advertisement for the movement.

A woman was talking about how she organized the London queue volunteers and stewards many of whom are in the 18-25 age group. She said the call went out on thursday and they had 500 volunteers by next day. I assume that the volunteers are getting basic expenses for transport and food costs. While I would not queue myself I would feel proud of any young person in my family who did offer their services.

I've not had any PMs today Jane. But I had some earlier this week.

I am wondering if you have got any PMs though volver. I generally just block the poster as there is a function within the PM. I'm not sure if you are told they have tried to send further messages or whether they know they have been blocked

I haven't seen any offensive Republican posts, even Grany isn't offensive is she? like a dog with a bone but it's hardly offensive
and i like dogs with bones, so to me it doesn't really matter.

Gosh, now I am in a predicament.

I'll just say to Patsy70, what a lovely post.

volver

DaisyAnne can you just leave me alone? Any chance of that?

If not, that's ok, just know that I won't be responding.

If you can't stand up to criticism, stop doing things that will get you criticised. Or grow a pair. Quote from volver Thu 15-Sep-22 20:08:06

My daughter, her husband, my nephew and granddaughter are currently just past the Millennium Bridge approaching Westminster Hall to pay their respects and thanks to our Queen Elizabeth. I feel so very proud that they are representing our family at this most historic occasions. ??

DaisyAnne can you just leave me alone? Any chance of that?

If not, that's ok, just know that I won't be responding.

volver

Thank you for replying M0nica.

I can honestly say that I have seen nobody being offensive and unpleasant to any member of the RF on here recently, although perhaps of course I have missed it.

I think its a bit like blasphemy; if you (general you) think your god is offended by someone saying nasty things about them, they are not much of a god. Same with the RF. If you can't stand up to criticism, stop doing things that will get you criticised. Or grow a pair.

There are people relaying things that they have read about in the press or online, but I have seen a lot more people being truly offensive to members of the RF, and considering themselves Royalists, and to me that is more unforgiveable.

I also don't think anyone should discount a system of government because they think some other people are unpleasant. That's just weird.

The problem is that you cannot see you have been both rude and offensive in that post volver.

My level of expectation on your posts has gone down so much that I would have thought little about it if you hadn't denied it's existance and then gone on the be as disparaging as you could.

If you check the last YouGov Poll, it is no surprise that younger people are in the queue.

I would guess we have more chance of re-joining the EU in our lifetime than changing to an elected Head of State.

docs.cdn.yougov.com/tzluoaf4hh/YouGov%20-%20Jubilee%20-%20Views%20of%20the%20Monarchy%20Survey%20Results.pdf

M0nica

volver I say nothing about the RF needing protecting from anything. It is just that I think that they should be treated with the same courtesy as anyone else.

Just because you can blaspheme a reliogion doesn't mean you should.

Try going back and reading some of the language used on RF threads on GN.

Some of the language used about members of the RF by monarchists is quite choice. That's not what makes me an "anti monarchy" person though. I'm a republican because of the positive aspects of republicanism, not because some of the monarchists are nasty people.

Not being a republican because some republicans are nasty is, I'm afraid, just not a very mature position.

When people make comments based on incorrect logic, I tell them so. Some people don't like being corrected.

Also my lot won about 90% of the available seats at the last election.

See what I mean about logic?

volver I say nothing about the RF needing protecting from anything. It is just that I think that they should be treated with the same courtesy as anyone else.

Just because you can blaspheme a reliogion doesn't mean you should.

Try going back and reading some of the language used on RF threads on GN.

volver

Hitler was elected Chancellor, not Head of State. Putin was "elected" in Russia, which is hardly known as a bastion of democracy. As well as being Head of State, Trump was head of government.

Boris Johnson was elected Head of Government in our own country. Should we abandon democratic elections for Prime Minister because we got a bad'un?

Sometimes being patronising is the only valid response.

Patronising and constantly sneering at people whose life experiences have led them to different conclusions than you is something you should continue with as it’s what cost the left the last election.

Keep up the good/bad work!

Thank you for replying M0nica.

I can honestly say that I have seen nobody being offensive and unpleasant to any member of the RF on here recently, although perhaps of course I have missed it.

I think its a bit like blasphemy; if you (general you) think your god is offended by someone saying nasty things about them, they are not much of a god. Same with the RF. If you can't stand up to criticism, stop doing things that will get you criticised. Or grow a pair.

There are people relaying things that they have read about in the press or online, but I have seen a lot more people being truly offensive to members of the RF, and considering themselves Royalists, and to me that is more unforgiveable.

I also don't think anyone should discount a system of government because they think some other people are unpleasant. That's just weird.

Volver I am with Lexi. The reason is that so many of those who say they are republicans tend to to use this claim to be as personally offiensive and unpleasant as they can about the Royal family at every conceivable opportunity.

I have every respect for those who want this country to be a republic and I am willing to have reasoned discussion with them, but when their republicanism means they feel that they can have a field day being rudely objectionable, and we get that in spades on royal threads on GN. I am not talking about criticising members of the royal family, that is reasonable, but so often it is the offensive way it is done

On GN we often have people on threads reminding other people not to indulge in unpleasant personal criticism of other members. Well, that is how we should treat everyone, regardless of their place in society.

? I'm navigating around the channels from here in France, so am picking up most of the good, helpful links to check out from gransnet!

It is a very long queue

It was.

www.channel4.com/news/queue-to-see-queens-coffin-has-become-important-says-historian

Was it Dan Snow's idea? Clever boy.