Merlot I know.
Thought this might amuse some of you!
What decade were your grandparents born?
Desperately sad story of the assisted suicide of a grieving mother
There's no rules, no rights or wrongs.
I can't make my mind up, but I guess ultimately at age 9 the parents will decide how to proceed.
Merlot I know.
Sparklefizz
M0nica
What I did notice was how totally devastated the Duchess of Sussex looked, when shown briefly before she stepped into the car after the Windsor service and there was another picture that showed her with tears dripping down her face.
I do hope this ad event can heal some of the rift in this family.She's an actress. The only photo I saw had one strategic tear very photogenically.... no crumpled strained face like the others. And realistically how could she be genuinely "devastated" when she and Harry have refused invitations to see the Queen either last Christmas or at Balmoral?
Monica do you mean Sophie the Duchess of Wessex?
Sophie and her husband Prince Edward were both crying and wiping their eyes in Westminster Abbey and she looked devastated outside afterwards with The Queen Consort, The Princess of Wales and the children.
Yes, Sophie was very upset, having been so close to the Queen.
I thought Meghan looked upset as were Sophie and Edward. My ever cynical dh said she was an actress. I like to think she was upset because I am a bit of a softy,
Somewhere, either here or online I heard Megan’s facial expressions bore a marked resemblance to that of SueEllen in Dallas who was much given to trembling lips and tears splashing down a cheek, whereas elsewhere she was described as brokenhearted. I think it depends so much on interpretation and the bias of the reporter. The Princess of Wales was similarly described as ‘dignified and holding it together’ and ‘really annoyed’ about something’.
Heavens I am sure they are relieved that that can have a week of private mourning without every facial expression being analysed.
In fairness to Meghan, I wouldn’t have thought she knew the Queen well enough to be very upset at her death. She only spent a fairly brief period as a working royal and she wouldn’t have been with the Queen very often during that time. However funerals are quite upsetting whoever they’re for, and if for your spouse’s grandparent, you may be upset on their behalf.
Sophie was said to have been seen as a second daughter by the Queen, which implies that they saw a lot of one another, and so Sophie was most likely genuinely upset yesterday. And the Queen was Sophie’s mother in law, but not Meghan’s mother in law. The relationship between mother in law and daughter in law is much closer than that of grandchild’s wife and grandparent.
silverlining48
I thought Meghan looked upset as were Sophie and Edward. My ever cynical dh said she was an actress. I like to think she was upset because I am a bit of a softy,
Who knows.. if you are talking about Meghan… maybe a piece of music got to her, maybe she was sad because Harry was . Or if you prefer to think it was all a show that’s up to you. Or Maybe it’s one day we could leave off the criticism?
I'm not sure why we are examining Meghan's face for a teardrop when she was no closer to the Queen than any of the grandchildren's spouses. Were they crying? I don't even know. I can't imagine any of them would be as deeply upset as her biological family, who have all known her since birth and probably been much closer to her.
M0nica
What I did notice was how totally devastated the Duchess of Sussex looked, when shown briefly before she stepped into the car after the Windsor service and there was another picture that showed her with tears dripping down her face.
I do hope this ad event can heal some of the rift in this family.
She's an actress.
Colin Firth does an interview explaining how he acted grief for "Single Man" (excellent movie). Maybe she has the same technique.
I wasn’t criticising.I thought she was genuinely upset. The whole thing cant have been easy knowing how unpopular she is.
Here is a pithy summary - “Meghan Markle condemned after Queen’s funeral for reason British press have not yet decided.”
Probably Meghan was overwhelmed by the occasion, which overshadowed anything Hollywood has ever done, time will tell if there is any reconcilliation, if there is it’s because her attitude has changed.
Norah what I saw was not acting. I believe the Queen was the one member of the Royal Family she kept in personal contact with.
I am entirely neutral on her. I think she got herself into something she entirely misunderstood and then reacted in completely the wrong way.
A correspondent in one of the papers likened Prince Harry to the Tragic Hero in Greek drama. The Tragic Hero is defined as a good person who brings misfortune on themselves, not through vice, but because of an error of judgement. They are flawed individuals, who commit, without malign intent, great wrongs that end up in their wretchedness, followed by the crippling realisation of the reality of the events that led to it
The language is a bit portentious and high falutin, but I still think in essence it sums up the tragedy that is both the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
She may have been upset by her position in the line up, poor
Sophie was distressed
Lucca
silverlining48
I thought Meghan looked upset as were Sophie and Edward. My ever cynical dh said she was an actress. I like to think she was upset because I am a bit of a softy,
Who knows.. if you are talking about Meghan… maybe a piece of music got to her, maybe she was sad because Harry was . Or if you prefer to think it was all a show that’s up to you. Or Maybe it’s one day we could leave off the criticism?
This. Surely even her fiercest critics could cut her a bit of slack on an occasion like this. A funeral can be an extremely emotional occasion even when you don't know the deceased person. Or do some people just like to find any excuse to attack her?
*Norah what I saw was not acting. I believe the Queen was the one member of the Royal Family she kept in personal contact with.
I am entirely neutral on her. I think she got herself into something she entirely misunderstood and then reacted in completely the wrong way.*
A view I can share. I think she had little clue as to what she was getting herself into - why would she? She comes from a different culture which is not as inured as we all are to the distorted reality that is the royal family.
I find the rush to jump on the bandwagon of condemnation and bitchery very sad. The media have found their scapegoat, a money spinner for them, and they will hound her relentlessly.
I had much respect for the queen and feel entirely sure that she would not condone this vendetta. I believe she was a woman for whom her faith was central; and this would leave her unable to feel happy about what the media are doing.
I am sure that when he planned her funeral she had no desire for it to be used as another reason to hound this young woman.
I am just surprised that people cannot see they are being manipulated by the press.
I haven’t watched the funeral properly, as unfortunately I was not able to.
When I catch up on I player, I shall be looking closely at Meghan!
No one seems to have mentioned that her wedding to Harry was at St Georges’s Chapel, only 4 short years ago, and what started with such promise has literally ended in tears, I’m sure.
So, if she was shedding tears, perhaps that was why, thinking back to a much happier day.
But I will reserve judgement until I watch the wedding properly.
(In fairness, I am not a fan of Meghan, but will try to view events neutrally).
Boz
Here is a pithy summary - “Meghan Markle condemned after Queen’s funeral for reason British press have not yet decided.”
Spot on Boz
Exactly. I'm pretty neutral when it comes to Meghan too, but I feel she can't do right in some people's eyes at all. If she sheds a tear, oh she must be acting, but if she hadn't, she'd have been condemned as cold and callous.
Haven’t read Zara, Anne, Camilla, Beatrice ,Louise, Eugenie Kate, were cold and callous
Anniebach
Haven’t read Zara, Anne, Camilla, Beatrice ,Louise, Eugenie Kate, were cold and callous
No, but you can bet your bottom dollar Meghan would have been, had she not shed a tear. I wonder why? And anyway, several of those mentioned were seen to be quite emotional, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.
I am neutral too, however:
I think she had little clue as to what she was getting herself into - why would she?
She had months of training and coaching to prepare her for the role she was about to undertake so was given many clues what life marrying into the Royal Family would be like.
At any time she could have opted out before the wedding as did Harry's previous girlfriends who realised that their lives may change.
As an actress she did know how to perform in public and she did a pretty good job of it at first - perhaps she shouldn't have read the reviews in the press.
The press here seem to put someone on a pedestal then enjoy knocking them down again.
At any time she could have opted out before the wedding as did Harry's previous girlfriends who realised that their lives may change.
Are you suggesting she should not have married the man she loves because the press might start a vendetta against he?
I saw an interview with Meghan a while back. She said that she can cry to order which is very useful for an actress. The interview was pre her involvement with the royals.
I have always wondered whether she loved the man or his position and title.
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