Prince George at The Queen's funeral?

There is, in my opinion, no better argument for a republic than the frenzied, implacable antipathy that seems to grip some people when they see someone in the RF not behaving the way they want them to. It's juvenile; maybe even infantile. But then what else might one expect from a system that tells you to hand over your common sense at the door and accept that some are just "born to reign".

I chose reign over rule to avoid the feeding frenzy of people who think the most important point to argue in all of this is that they don't rule.

DH was on his own yesterday and didn't watch any of the spectacle on TV. Clever chap, my DH.

Clever chap, my DH

Funnily enough, so is mine.

We watched the services together.

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Callistemon21

Who is ordinary?
What is ordinary?

Their lives will seem as normal to them as those of any other child.
If by groomed you mean well-behaved then so are my DGC as they too know how to behave at certain occasions and when they can play.

And that’s the point Callistemon21.
Ordinary is what you are accustomed to.
My DGC are also groomed to behave appropriately for different occasions. DGS who has ASC learns what will happen and what behaviour is expected through social stories.

maddyone

I’ve just seen a picture of little Charlotte crying yesterday. That was very sad.

where did you see it please, I'd like to take a look.

Maddyone scrub that, I've found it. Thank you for pointing it out

It starts early Charlotte. You're only seven but rubbing your eyes in the sunshine followed by a yawn gets reported worldwide as "crying". A wee word of advice, lass. Don't grow up to do anything to disappoint the adoring masses. They'll eat you alive.

www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20220919151591/princess-charlotte-tears-funeral-explained/

“My god, what a memory you have. So many moons ago. Difference is, I haven't held it in my heart and made it my life's work to complain about it for months on Social Media.”

Well volver I’ve trotted across the northern hemisphere in the time while you’ve stayed in your comfort zone so who’s parochial? My mind is broadened by travel as I wasn’t blessed with an academic education- lucky me eh?

And yes my memory has been called encyclopaedic by so many who know so much better than you, but just to make sure, I checked back and sure enough you’ve shot yourself in the foot.... like you did on another thread, and couldn’t logically respond so kept quiet...?

Lots of people’s sorrow was broadcast world wide to the masses. I hope they’re all listening to your advice Volver.

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Katie59

George and Charlotte are not ordinary children they have been carefully groomed, they understand what is expected of them, their parents and nanny’s have impressed it upon them.
They had a week to get over the shock of the Queen dying, they were carefully briefed, even so seeing adults in tears would have been a surprise for them

If they’re not ordinary children I think that’s the saddest thing of all. They have the same emotional needs as all children and if they can’t be allowed to be ordinary while they’re small, perhaps the best thing William could do, in my humble opinion, is walk away from the whole crazy circus.

Some might regard training children to make public appearances as abuse. Funny cos ordinary children are not permitted to take part in performances without being licensed, and there are strict regulations about the age and suitable times etc. Just goes to show one rule for the RF and one for the rest of us.

Well volver I’ve trotted across the northern hemisphere in the time while you’ve stayed in your comfort zone so who’s parochial? My mind is broadened by travel as I wasn’t blessed with an academic education- lucky me eh?

I have an education and I've "trotted" across huge bits of the northern hemisphere and Australia. Not sure of your point...? I'm parochial because...?

You cherry pick volver and whenever someone comes up with an argument you can’t counter you divert....

Either Louis and Charlotte can be be forgiven their childhood public misdeeds or not!

I can't remember the exact words, but there was a lovely comment from Catherine a few days ago, that the children's new school was looking after them well, and that their new friends were kind. No doubt everyone is supporting them in a caring environment, as should happen for any child suffering a bereavement.

Pantglas2

You cherry pick volver and whenever someone comes up with an argument you can’t counter you divert....

Either Louis and Charlotte can be be forgiven their childhood public misdeeds or not!

I'm sorry, what?

The press making up stories about a seven year old to make us feel sorry for her is Charlotte's childhood public misdeeds?

What are you talking about?

Anniebach

And one who thought he looked miserable, not forgetting his
parents being criticised, you remained silent Lucca but you
leap on criticism of Meghan

I really dont want to be rude but give it a rest please. I don’t leap on it. I don’t think it’s necessary on such a day no matter who is being criticised.
Just like I didn’t think criticism of clapping was appropriate (another thread )
And I’m not obliged to respond to every post often others have said what I think therefore no need.

I can't keep up with some threads or comments either Lucca, I don't think it is unreasonable we might miss things

All I did was correct a common misconception and got jumped on!

maddyone

I’ve just seen a picture of little Charlotte crying yesterday. That was very sad.

Understandable.

She also received a reassuring smile from Aunty Meghan.

That’s nice Callistemon. I hope it reassured Charlotte as was obviously the intention.

I think it important to speak to children about death, to give love and reassurance, and to let them take part in the usual rituals that surround death, and in most cases that’s the funeral. This is also the advice child psychologists give. Then they learn that death, although very sad, and although both adults and children may cry, death is part of life.
And it doesn’t matter if the child is royal or any other child. They all need to learn this, and it is usually learnt through the death of a family member.

I think George and Charlotte do have an understanding of death. I seem to remember that they were devastated when the family dog, Lupo, died and no doubt learnt from that experience which kind of prepares young children. Then their great Grandpa died too.
And before anyone says a family pet is not the same thing, try telling that to a child whose dog or cat has been a family member and loyal friend.

I didn't realise that Lupo had died

JaneJudge

I can't keep up with some threads or comments either Lucca, I don't think it is unreasonable we might miss things

Thank you

Germanshepherdsmum

Oh dear. I’m not a cryer and despite being a monarchist who admired the Queen very much and was saddened by her death, I haven’t shed one tear.

Oh naughty GSM! Even as a republican I, well, erm, I didn't cry but, at the news of her death and having seen that last photo' of her 'gamely' (as I saw it) putting on her usual smiling face to greet Liz Truss... I felt huge sadness.

Perhaps because of the 'human condition', the sad end that gets us all ultimately, monarch or menial. She was close to the end of her life, possibly knew it, and looked a fragile shell of her former fairly robust self. She has been snapped and photo'd so often, smiling, not-smiling, looking serious, sometimes amused, but in that last photo' she just looked like a fragile and vulnerable old lady, just an ordinary human being whose privilege and wealth in those final hours could not prevent the inescapable fact of approaching death.

She 'served' her country in the way she was brought up to do, required to do, and in the only way she could do, but living so much of her life in a virtual goldfish bowl I wonder how much of her was enveloped in her duties? For me, she suddenly became very human, unsure, in that last photo' and I admit I felt saddened by it.

To my surprise I too found tears in my eyes, more than once after it was announced that the Queen had died, but how lucky she was to have lived so long in good health and been up and about, just a couple of days before, horse riding too. Certainly as good a death as anyone could hope for.
I thought the last photo was lovely. frail yes but what a beautiful smile.