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Prince George at The Queen's funeral?

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Joseanne Sun 18-Sept-22 09:56:28

There's no rules, no rights or wrongs.
I can't make my mind up, but I guess ultimately at age 9 the parents will decide how to proceed.

Katie59 Tue 20-Sept-22 17:33:43

George and Charlotte are not ordinary children they have been carefully groomed, they understand what is expected of them, their parents and nanny’s have impressed it upon them.
They had a week to get over the shock of the Queen dying, they were carefully briefed, even so seeing adults in tears would have been a surprise for them

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 20-Sept-22 17:26:52

Oh dear. I’m not a cryer and despite being a monarchist who admired the Queen very much and was saddened by her death, I haven’t shed one tear.

Glorianny Tue 20-Sept-22 17:25:58

So she married him for his money and title. Holds his hand because she wants to control him. Only cries because she's an actress and she can cry to order. Should have got out before she married him if she didn't like it. No doubt there will be other posts vilifying her once again. No wonder they want to live in the US.

Callistemon21 Tue 20-Sept-22 17:23:29

Chestnut

volver

At any time she could have opted out before the wedding as did Harry's previous girlfriends who realised that their lives may change.

Are you suggesting she should not have married the man she loves because the press might start a vendetta against he?

You have twisted those words. It's because their lives would change, not because of the press. It even applies to Camilla back in the day, plus Harry's girlfriends. They did not want to live in the Royal goldfish bowl and follow all the rules and protocol.

You have twisted those words

It happens time and again, Chestnut and not just with my posts.

FannyCornforth Tue 20-Sept-22 17:18:58

Daisymae

I saw an interview with Meghan a while back. She said that she can cry to order which is very useful for an actress. The interview was pre her involvement with the royals.

1. Of course actors can cry to order! They can all do it! Even I can do it!
To think that Meghan had to revisit her Stanivslasky (sp?) is absurd!

2. It would be almost impossible for the vast majority of people to go through the reality of HM’s funeral and not cry.

Chestnut Tue 20-Sept-22 17:18:54

volver

^At any time she could have opted out before the wedding as did Harry's previous girlfriends who realised that their lives may change.^

Are you suggesting she should not have married the man she loves because the press might start a vendetta against he?

You have twisted those words. It's because their lives would change, not because of the press. It even applies to Camilla back in the day, plus Harry's girlfriends. They did not want to live in the Royal goldfish bowl and follow all the rules and protocol.

nightowl Tue 20-Sept-22 17:18:27

It seems the other older great grandchildren went to the service in St George’s chapel, but not to Westminster Abbey. I’m not sure if any went to the burial. But it does seem that all the parents made different decisions for their children, which is their prerogative.

grandtanteJE65 Tue 20-Sept-22 17:14:49

Well, the children went and behaved impeccably, so presumably their parents or nanny had explained what happens and why.

I was not allowed to attend my grandparents' funerals and was more scared by being kept out of the way than I would have been if I had been allowed to go.

I have sung at literally hundreds of funerals as a professional singer, and have, of course, seen many very sad people, both adults and children, which is quite natural, but I have never seen a frightened child.

Casdon Tue 20-Sept-22 17:13:29

Does any of this really matter? Meghan was there, she supported her husband who was visibly upset, she didn’t embarrass herself or anybody else. Neither did any of the other royals. It’s a non story.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 20-Sept-22 17:10:41

I have always wondered whether she loved the man or his position and title.

Daisymae Tue 20-Sept-22 17:09:59

I saw an interview with Meghan a while back. She said that she can cry to order which is very useful for an actress. The interview was pre her involvement with the royals.

volver Tue 20-Sept-22 17:08:56

At any time she could have opted out before the wedding as did Harry's previous girlfriends who realised that their lives may change.

Are you suggesting she should not have married the man she loves because the press might start a vendetta against he?

Callistemon21 Tue 20-Sept-22 16:46:55

I am neutral too, however:

I think she had little clue as to what she was getting herself into - why would she?
She had months of training and coaching to prepare her for the role she was about to undertake so was given many clues what life marrying into the Royal Family would be like.
At any time she could have opted out before the wedding as did Harry's previous girlfriends who realised that their lives may change.
As an actress she did know how to perform in public and she did a pretty good job of it at first - perhaps she shouldn't have read the reviews in the press.
The press here seem to put someone on a pedestal then enjoy knocking them down again.

Blondiescot Tue 20-Sept-22 16:44:25

Anniebach

Haven’t read Zara, Anne, Camilla, Beatrice ,Louise, Eugenie Kate, were cold and callous

No, but you can bet your bottom dollar Meghan would have been, had she not shed a tear. I wonder why? And anyway, several of those mentioned were seen to be quite emotional, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.

Anniebach Tue 20-Sept-22 16:42:34

Haven’t read Zara, Anne, Camilla, Beatrice ,Louise, Eugenie Kate, were cold and callous

Blondiescot Tue 20-Sept-22 16:28:40

Exactly. I'm pretty neutral when it comes to Meghan too, but I feel she can't do right in some people's eyes at all. If she sheds a tear, oh she must be acting, but if she hadn't, she'd have been condemned as cold and callous.

Ilovecheese Tue 20-Sept-22 16:10:56

Boz

Here is a pithy summary - “Meghan Markle condemned after Queen’s funeral for reason British press have not yet decided.”

Spot on Boz

Calendargirl Tue 20-Sept-22 16:08:49

I haven’t watched the funeral properly, as unfortunately I was not able to.

When I catch up on I player, I shall be looking closely at Meghan!

No one seems to have mentioned that her wedding to Harry was at St Georges’s Chapel, only 4 short years ago, and what started with such promise has literally ended in tears, I’m sure.

So, if she was shedding tears, perhaps that was why, thinking back to a much happier day.

But I will reserve judgement until I watch the wedding properly.

(In fairness, I am not a fan of Meghan, but will try to view events neutrally).

Luckygirl3 Tue 20-Sept-22 16:00:25

*Norah what I saw was not acting. I believe the Queen was the one member of the Royal Family she kept in personal contact with.
I am entirely neutral on her. I think she got herself into something she entirely misunderstood and then reacted in completely the wrong way.*

A view I can share. I think she had little clue as to what she was getting herself into - why would she? She comes from a different culture which is not as inured as we all are to the distorted reality that is the royal family.

I find the rush to jump on the bandwagon of condemnation and bitchery very sad. The media have found their scapegoat, a money spinner for them, and they will hound her relentlessly.

I had much respect for the queen and feel entirely sure that she would not condone this vendetta. I believe she was a woman for whom her faith was central; and this would leave her unable to feel happy about what the media are doing.

I am sure that when he planned her funeral she had no desire for it to be used as another reason to hound this young woman.

I am just surprised that people cannot see they are being manipulated by the press.

Blondiescot Tue 20-Sept-22 15:52:23

Lucca

silverlining48

I thought Meghan looked upset as were Sophie and Edward. My ever cynical dh said she was an actress. I like to think she was upset because I am a bit of a softy,

Who knows.. if you are talking about Meghan… maybe a piece of music got to her, maybe she was sad because Harry was . Or if you prefer to think it was all a show that’s up to you. Or Maybe it’s one day we could leave off the criticism?

This. Surely even her fiercest critics could cut her a bit of slack on an occasion like this. A funeral can be an extremely emotional occasion even when you don't know the deceased person. Or do some people just like to find any excuse to attack her?

Anniebach Tue 20-Sept-22 15:40:49

She may have been upset by her position in the line up, poor
Sophie was distressed

M0nica Tue 20-Sept-22 15:24:55

Norah what I saw was not acting. I believe the Queen was the one member of the Royal Family she kept in personal contact with.

I am entirely neutral on her. I think she got herself into something she entirely misunderstood and then reacted in completely the wrong way.

A correspondent in one of the papers likened Prince Harry to the Tragic Hero in Greek drama. The Tragic Hero is defined as a good person who brings misfortune on themselves, not through vice, but because of an error of judgement. They are flawed individuals, who commit, without malign intent, great wrongs that end up in their wretchedness, followed by the crippling realisation of the reality of the events that led to it

The language is a bit portentious and high falutin, but I still think in essence it sums up the tragedy that is both the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

Katie59 Tue 20-Sept-22 15:21:45

Probably Meghan was overwhelmed by the occasion, which overshadowed anything Hollywood has ever done, time will tell if there is any reconcilliation, if there is it’s because her attitude has changed.

Boz Tue 20-Sept-22 15:10:46

Here is a pithy summary - “Meghan Markle condemned after Queen’s funeral for reason British press have not yet decided.”

silverlining48 Tue 20-Sept-22 14:25:10

I wasn’t criticising.I thought she was genuinely upset. The whole thing cant have been easy knowing how unpopular she is.