Prince George at The Queen's funeral?

Mandrake

I'm sure that William and Kate, in discussion with George and Charlotte, have made the decision that is best for the children. This is a parenting decision that I'm sure has been made with love and care for the children. Not our concern.

I quite agree, well said. .

JaneJudge

My children always attended funerals. I know they aren't Royal family but we have always been honest about death with them and I think a funeral is part of learning the process of death and mourning. I certainly don't think 9 is too young but as you say, it's up to his parents and also the amount of people there.

I don't think anyone, including the media has to have an opinion.

I am so with you on this.
But he is also able to have an opinion on which service he attends.

I'm afraid I don't think the royal children get many choices in life.
Harry voted with his feet and left the country.
If G and C go today let's hope it's not the full 20 hours
They are just children. Please let them have a childhood.

But they are Royal children Grammaretto and apparently not entitled to any protection. They have to be exhibited and to perform their royal duties. Children used to be sent up chimneys. children used to perform on stages, children used to go down mines. All of these are now regulated by law because it wasn't good for them. How strange that a public exhibition can be made of children because of their birth. Many of the children on stage and in entertainment apparently liked doing it, but we now recognise they were exploited. Children choosing isn't necessarily a good way to go. But I hope the Royalists are happy condoning such treatment.

I’m not sure if the Royal adults have many choices in life.
Hence why Harry’s decision was, it had to be, so brutal.
I imagine that there are lots of advisors, but all advising the same thing.
Recent events have really bought it home to me just what a machine it is.
The personnel change, but the whole thing charges on relentlessly.

Glorianny

But they are Royal children Grammaretto and apparently not entitled to any protection. They have to be exhibited and to perform their royal duties. Children used to be sent up chimneys. children used to perform on stages, children used to go down mines. All of these are now regulated by law because it wasn't good for them. How strange that a public exhibition can be made of children because of their birth. Many of the children on stage and in entertainment apparently liked doing it, but we now recognise they were exploited. Children choosing isn't necessarily a good way to go. But I hope the Royalists are happy condoning such treatment.

I’m not a royalist Glorianny, but as I said yesterday I think your opinion is at one extreme, and you shouldn’t judge others who don’t agree with you. We are not in a position to know how these children feel, what has been discussed with them, whether this is something they actively want to do. They have been used to being a significant Royal events their whole lives, and may be completely unfazed by public attention for all you know. You aren’t an expert at analysing the psyche of these children any more than the next man in the street.

I wouldn’t put my children through that. It’s enough for children to understand that they won’t be seeing their great grandmother again as people die when they get old. To have to walk behind the coffin as they go into the abbey is an unnecessary performance.

Attending a grandparent’s funeral is like being sent up a chimney or going down the mines then Glorianny.

That’s truly one of your best.

It doesn't come across as a judgement particularlyCasdon Glorianny's post
It is a point of view, an opinion. Surely that's allowed?

Lovetopaint037

I wouldn’t put my children through that. It’s enough for children to understand that they won’t be seeing their great grandmother again as people die when they get old. To have to walk behind the coffin as they go into the abbey is an unnecessary performance.

Well they are not your children...you don't live their life....your opinion is your own ....you can't generalise

Mollygo surely you know what was meant!
History will judge but I was surprised that after William and Harry's distress when Diana died, that these children were offered the same thing. It's not their parents so not so close but odd nevertheless.

Grammaretto

It doesn't come across as a judgement particularlyCasdon Glorianny's post
It is a point of view, an opinion. Surely that's allowed?

I was looking at the post in conjunction with Glorianny’s previous post as well as this one Grammaretto. I agree, we’re all entitled to our own opinions, it’s when people say they could be rude about other peoples opinions that I get frustrated because that implies that they aren’t really listening to what other people say at all.

Casdon

Glorianny

But they are Royal children Grammaretto and apparently not entitled to any protection. They have to be exhibited and to perform their royal duties. Children used to be sent up chimneys. children used to perform on stages, children used to go down mines. All of these are now regulated by law because it wasn't good for them. How strange that a public exhibition can be made of children because of their birth. Many of the children on stage and in entertainment apparently liked doing it, but we now recognise they were exploited. Children choosing isn't necessarily a good way to go. But I hope the Royalists are happy condoning such treatment.

I’m not a royalist Glorianny, but as I said yesterday I think your opinion is at one extreme, and you shouldn’t judge others who don’t agree with you. We are not in a position to know how these children feel, what has been discussed with them, whether this is something they actively want to do. They have been used to being a significant Royal events their whole lives, and may be completely unfazed by public attention for all you know. You aren’t an expert at analysing the psyche of these children any more than the next man in the street.

I think the judgement has been entirely on the side of the Royalists. Try reading the thread. I haven't called anyone names, others haven't been so thoughtful.

Casdon

Grammaretto

It doesn't come across as a judgement particularlyCasdon Glorianny's post
It is a point of view, an opinion. Surely that's allowed?

I was looking at the post in conjunction with Glorianny’s previous post as well as this one Grammaretto. I agree, we’re all entitled to our own opinions, it’s when people say they could be rude about other peoples opinions that I get frustrated because that implies that they aren’t really listening to what other people say at all.

If you haven't read the thread you don't understand what I was saying at all

Glorianny

Casdon

Grammaretto

It doesn't come across as a judgement particularlyCasdon Glorianny's post
It is a point of view, an opinion. Surely that's allowed?

I was looking at the post in conjunction with Glorianny’s previous post as well as this one Grammaretto. I agree, we’re all entitled to our own opinions, it’s when people say they could be rude about other peoples opinions that I get frustrated because that implies that they aren’t really listening to what other people say at all.

If you haven't read the thread you don't understand what I was saying at all

Of course I’ve read the thread, I understand exactly what you were saying. That’s why I commented.

Casdon

Glorianny

Casdon

Grammaretto

It doesn't come across as a judgement particularlyCasdon Glorianny's post
It is a point of view, an opinion. Surely that's allowed?

I was looking at the post in conjunction with Glorianny’s previous post as well as this one Grammaretto. I agree, we’re all entitled to our own opinions, it’s when people say they could be rude about other peoples opinions that I get frustrated because that implies that they aren’t really listening to what other people say at all.

If you haven't read the thread you don't understand what I was saying at all

Of course I’ve read the thread, I understand exactly what you were saying. That’s why I commented.

So it's judgemental for me to say I'm not calling anyone names.
What on earth would you call some of the names I've been called then?

Anniebach

William has said he was asked if he wanted to walk behind the
coffin, Harry did because his brother did,

Any trauma was surely caused by the public screaming and
wailing

I agree Annie, that was what I had in mind really. What was disgraceful was that they were dragged back from Balmoral against the queen’s better judgement, and paraded to shake hands with the public because the public demanded it. At least these children won’t have that experience but I’m still surprised they are to be part of the public spectacle.

Glorianny

Casdon

Glorianny

Casdon

Grammaretto

It doesn't come across as a judgement particularlyCasdon Glorianny's post
It is a point of view, an opinion. Surely that's allowed?

I was looking at the post in conjunction with Glorianny’s previous post as well as this one Grammaretto. I agree, we’re all entitled to our own opinions, it’s when people say they could be rude about other peoples opinions that I get frustrated because that implies that they aren’t really listening to what other people say at all.

If you haven't read the thread you don't understand what I was saying at all

Of course I’ve read the thread, I understand exactly what you were saying. That’s why I commented.

So it's judgemental for me to say I'm not calling anyone names.
What on earth would you call some of the names I've been called then?

I haven’t called you any names, but yes, I do think what you said on this thread was judgmental.

why don't you all shut up for a while. have a bit of respect!

?Lemsip

Casdon

Glorianny

Casdon

Glorianny

Casdon

Grammaretto

It doesn't come across as a judgement particularlyCasdon Glorianny's post
It is a point of view, an opinion. Surely that's allowed?

I was looking at the post in conjunction with Glorianny’s previous post as well as this one Grammaretto. I agree, we’re all entitled to our own opinions, it’s when people say they could be rude about other peoples opinions that I get frustrated because that implies that they aren’t really listening to what other people say at all.

If you haven't read the thread you don't understand what I was saying at all

Of course I’ve read the thread, I understand exactly what you were saying. That’s why I commented.

So it's judgemental for me to say I'm not calling anyone names.
What on earth would you call some of the names I've been called then?

I haven’t called you any names, but yes, I do think what you said on this thread was judgmental.

I didn't accuse you of calling me names I asked what you would call some of the names I have been called on this thread. Are they judgemental? Or is your prejudice simply about my opinion?

The Archbishop of Canterbury spoke this morning of four elements of the Late Queen's life - Duty, Service, Family and Faith. Young as they are, they will also form the threads of Prince George's & Princess Charlotte's future lives and their parents are sensibly involving them gradually in public and State events. We can't apply our own family preferences to their lives and I for one am certain that The new Prince and Princess of Wales will use their own wisdom and experiences to do the right thing for their children. We can't ask more of them.

What can only be a 'public spectacle' to us as not members of the RF is as well as being very public, also private.

I don't think the children have been paraded and for all we know, just wanted to be there to say their goodbyes to 'Gan Gan' as they affectionately called her.

Well said lemsip.

Yes saying shut up to people on social media is the ultimate act of respect.

You tried lemsip